NBA Thread

[Orgfiller]

They need to use the roll man more, Brooklyn literally can't cover it. Especially when Blatche/Teletovic are in.

 

Roll men shot 7-9 today

 

Brooklyn doesn't have the size or strength to stop JV, and old man KG can't guard him either. Any time he got the ball he abused defenders in the post.

[43211234]

Did anyone else notice the guy who kept holding up the Santos Blue Jays jersey in the square/Jurassic Park?

[jaysblue]

Did anyone else notice the guy who kept holding up the Santos Blue Jays jersey in the square/Jurassic Park?

 

That was actually Spanky. He was at the Jays game earlier wearing his Santos jersey.

[Angrioter]

Pacers suck

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Pacers are a joke. Hibbert has zero offense. Stephenson is a basketcase. George is NOT a superstar. Roy Hibbert is getting paid 15M a year to sit on the bench the entire 4th quarter of a crucial game... Guy is shooting 31% and averaging 5 PPG/3 RPG so far..... An absolute BUST.

 

People can make fun of chemistry, etc in baseball but it is a real thing in basketball. The Raps are where they are because of how well they play as a team. If they just played ISO ball all year they probably win 30 games.

 

Indy is done. Vogel will get fired but he's not the problem. It all started when they traded Granger (great glue guy) for Turner.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

http://bellmediapr.ca/Network/TSN/Press/Toronto-Raptors-Playoff-Audiences-Continue-to-Soar-on-TSN

 

Raps TV numbers are almost at historic levels. Needless to say that this was the most watched Raptors game of alltime when you factor in illegal streaming (highest ever was Game 7 vs the Sixers but internet access was much more limited back then).

 

Well done Canada. You know TSN is going to be pimping this team like crazy next year seeing as how they lost the NHL as well. Great to see this exposure.

[G-Snarls]

Road teams are 17-13 so far this post season

 

Unheard of!

[G-Snarls]

Pacers are a joke. Hibbert has zero offense. Stephenson is a basketcase. George is NOT a superstar. Roy Hibbert is getting paid 15M a year to sit on the bench the entire 4th quarter of a crucial game... Guy is shooting 31% and averaging 5 PPG/3 RPG so far..... An absolute BUST.

 

People can make fun of chemistry, etc in baseball but it is a real thing in basketball. The Raps are where they are because of how well they play as a team. If they just played ISO ball all year they probably win 30 games.

 

Indy is done. Vogel will get fired but he's not the problem. It all started when they traded Granger (great glue guy) for Turner.

 

Ansd this was the team so many thought would easily walk over the Heat this season. Pffftttt.

 

The East is so weak now it's a joke (but good for the Raptors obviously)

[Dr. Dinger]

Maxwell's Silver Hammer!

 

Sterling banned FOR LIFE and a $2.5M fine! Will also be forced to sell the Clippers.

[z3r0s]

Maxwell's Silver Hammer!

 

Sterling banned FOR LIFE and a $2.5M fine! Will also be forced to sell the Clippers.

 

At the very least, nobody should call that a half-assed response.

[The Cats Ass]

Maxwell's Silver Hammer!

 

Sterling banned FOR LIFE and a $2.5M fine! Will also be forced to sell the Clippers.

 

It was the only reasonable thing to do.

[Dr. Dinger]

I can't believe a commissioner had the sack to levy a penalty that significant.

 

I have so much respect for Silver as of this moment.

[KingKat]

AnemicOffense is gonna rage and he'll probably have a point.

 

The NBA was fine with him being a total racist when it was less well know. All it cares about is the media firestorm not the fact that he's a vile character. It's media justice but at the same time, it's hard to cry for the *******.

[z3r0s]

AnemicOffense is gonna rage and he'll probably have a point.

 

The NBA was fine with him being a total racist when it was less well know. All it cares about is the media firestorm not the fact that he's a vile character. It's media justice but at the same time, it's hard to cry for the *******.

 

better then no justice. Just chalk it up as a win.

[Sammy225]

Is anyone else curious as to why a obvious racist would want to be the owner of a basketball team.... Just baffles me...

[KingKat]

better then no justice. Just chalk it up as a win.

 

Yeah it's impressively decisive. I'm just not sure how they are going to justify it other than saying "we knew he was a jerk all along and put up with it but when the media asks for a pound of flash, godammit the NBA delivers".

[KingKat]

Is anyone else curious as to why a obvious racist would want to be the owner of a basketball team.... Just baffles me...

 

Racists usually don't have any problem making money off the labour or other races. Heck, he might have even preffered to be making his money that way.

[TheHurl]

Excellent work by Silver...now you've just got to deal with the players running your league, teams trying to lose, refs being instructed to help certain teams, and negotiate yourself out of one of sports craziest deals (The Silna brothers who owned the ABA team that didn't take the $3M deal to not be part of the NBA, instead get a percentage of the TV deal that pays them over $18M a year to do nothing). Not to mention he's got that new TV deal to negotiate in 2 years. This is going to be one of the toughest reigns of any commish ever but honestly he's off to a great start.

[TheHurl]

Is anyone else curious as to why a obvious racist would want to be the owner of a basketball team.... Just baffles me...

 

you ask this but not why he has a half black, half Mexican wife?

[Abomination]

That's one hell of a message they're sending, and far stronger than I expected. Good for the NBA for doing so. Now if they can just crack down on the obvious biased officiating...

[HERPDERP]

I'll play devil's advocate here.

 

While I do not agree with Sterling's remarks, I most certainly agree that it was expected that his own personal opinions were made in private and should remain as such.

 

I don't have the exact word on it, but we see similar situations in courts regarding proof of crimes. The prosecution may have the smoking gun that will incriminate the accused, but the way this information was acquired was illegally obtained, and as such cannot be used in court. Or in an easier example, having the smoking gun acquired without a permit when one should have been requested and presented lawfully.

 

Of course, legal/illegal isn't straight cut in the NBA example, but I think it has to do more with freedom of speech and expectation of privacy. Or maybe it crosses the hate crime line? I don't know, I don't study these topics.

[Abomination]

I'll play devil's advocate here.

 

While I do not agree with Sterling's remarks, I most certainly agree that it was expected that his own personal opinions were made in private and should remain as such.

 

I don't have the exact word on it, but we see similar situations in courts regarding proof of crimes. The prosecution may have the smoking gun that will incriminate the accused, but the way this information was acquired was illegally obtained, and as such cannot be used in court.

 

Of course, legal/illegal isn't straight cut in the NBA example, but I think it has to do more with freedom of speech. Or maybe it crosses the hate crime line? I don't know, I don't study these topics.

 

Yeah, I know what you're getting at. I think the NBA has a lot of rules that owners have to agree to when they buy a team that allows them to make good on the fine and forcing a team sale. Banning him from the sport for life for his comments might be questionable to stick though.

[HERPDERP]

Yeah, I know what you're getting at. I think the NBA has a lot of rules that owners have to agree to when they buy a team that allows them to make good on the fine and forcing a team sale. Banning him from the sport for life for his comments might be questionable to stick though.

 

Thank goodness Mark Cuban seems like a nice guy. That guy is the most outspoken, passionate owner in sports and I bet this makes him queezy and to be very careful what comes out of his mouth. This sets a precedent not only for the NBA but for all 4 major sports.

[HERPDERP]

I'll play devil's advocate here.

 

While I do not agree with Sterling's remarks, I most certainly agree that it was expected that his own personal opinions were made in private and should remain as such.

 

I don't have the exact word on it, but we see similar situations in courts regarding proof of crimes. The prosecution may have the smoking gun that will incriminate the accused, but the way this information was acquired was illegally obtained, and as such cannot be used in court. Or in an easier example, having the smoking gun acquired without a permit when one should have been requested and presented lawfully.

 

Of course, legal/illegal isn't straight cut in the NBA example, but I think it has to do more with freedom of speech and expectation of privacy. Or maybe it crosses the hate crime line? I don't know, I don't study these topics.

 

OK researched it a bit more..

 

Freedom of speech is not an issue here, since that only applies when dealing with the government. It absolutely does not apply to private corporations. So Sterling is in the clear there.

 

However, assuming Sterling did not consent to being interviewed, then the recorder is operating against California's wiretapping laws. And not only are they commiting a criminal act, but they are opening themselves up to a civil lawsuit to recovery any related damages.

 

Furthermore, I'm sure it's reasonable that any owner of a franchise in any sports has in the contracts something close to a morality clause. If the clause is violated, I'm sure there are repercussions, financial or otherwise.

 

So TLDR, Sterling is not entitled to freedom of speech, nor does he have a defense against the NBA. He does however, have the opportunity to pursue damages against those who recorded the private conversation, assuming he did not consent.

[KingKat]

I'll play devil's advocate here.

 

While I do not agree with Sterling's remarks, I most certainly agree that it was expected that his own personal opinions were made in private and should remain as such.

 

I don't have the exact word on it, but we see similar situations in courts regarding proof of crimes. The prosecution may have the smoking gun that will incriminate the accused, but the way this information was acquired was illegally obtained, and as such cannot be used in court. Or in an easier example, having the smoking gun acquired without a permit when one should have been requested and presented lawfully.

 

Of course, legal/illegal isn't straight cut in the NBA example, but I think it has to do more with freedom of speech and expectation of privacy. Or maybe it crosses the hate crime line? I don't know, I don't study these topics.

 

Legal concepts don't even enter the discussion. This is the corporate world where you can do whatever you want. The NBA is within its rights to kick out an owner if it doesn't like the look of his face it it wants. It just comes down to what creates more controversy, keeping the owner or kicking him out. The NBA isn't part of Government, it's not part of the legal system, it's not accountable to anyone. It doesn't even have shareholders to answer to (although some ownership groups would on their own). What's fair doesn't even enter the discussion. It was fine with this guy as long as the negative attention he attracted was constrained to insiders. Went this went viral, they had a problem on their hands and they just dealt with it. The fact that the evidence was obtained in a bogus way, the fact that it's not entirely fair to the ******* doesn't diminish the size of the scandal so it doesn't really matter. To paraphrase Peter Dinklage, if you're looking for justice in the corporate world, you've come to the wrong place.

[jays_fever]

Does anyone understand how they are justifying the 2.5 mill fine?

[Dr. Dinger]

OK researched it a bit more..

 

Freedom of speech is not an issue here, since that only applies when dealing with the government. It absolutely does not apply to private corporations. So Sterling is in the clear there.

 

However, assuming Sterling did not consent to being interviewed, then the recorder is operating against California's wiretapping laws. And not only are they commiting a criminal act, but they are opening themselves up to a civil lawsuit to recovery any related damages.

 

Furthermore, I'm sure it's reasonable that any owner of a franchise in any sports has in the contracts something close to a morality clause. If the clause is violated, I'm sure there are repercussions, financial or otherwise.

 

So TLDR, Sterling is not entitled to freedom of speech, nor does he have a defense against the NBA. He does however, have the opportunity to pursue damages against those who recorded the private conversation, assuming he did not consent.

 

It's not wiretapping, she just recorded a voice note in her purse during an in-person conversation, there's nothing illegal about it.

[Dr. Dinger]

Does anyone understand how they are justifying the 2.5 mill fine?

 

How is it unjustified? NBA owners need to comport themselves in a manner befitting the integrity and equality of the league. He was fined the maximum amount agreed to by the league constitution for a vile breach of conduct.

[HERPDERP]

It's not wiretapping, she just recorded a voice note in her purse during an in-person conversation, there's nothing illegal about it.

 

I know when people see the word 'wiretapping' they automatically think of The Wire and all the police mumbo jumbo, but it's all encompassing.

 

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/california-recording-law

[HERPDERP]

Legal concepts don't even enter the discussion. This is the corporate world where you can do whatever you want. The NBA is within its rights to kick out an owner if it doesn't like the look of his face it it wants. It just comes down to what creates more controversy, keeping the owner or kicking him out. The NBA isn't part of Government, it's not part of the legal system, it's not accountable to anyone. It doesn't even have shareholders to answer to (although some ownership groups would on their own). What's fair doesn't even enter the discussion. It was fine with this guy as long as the negative attention he attracted was constrained to insiders. Went this went viral, they had a problem on their hands and they just dealt with it. The fact that the evidence was obtained in a bogus way, the fact that it's not entirely fair to the ******* doesn't diminish the size of the scandal so it doesn't really matter. To paraphrase Peter Dinklage, if you're looking for justice in the corporate world, you've come to the wrong place.

 

Yeah read my 2nd post, I made that realization after a bit more research.