NBA Thread

[Orgfiller]

Nogueira getting absolutely schooled by Dwight Howard.

[thatoneguy]

Getting completely overworked in the paint.

[John_Havok]

Nogueira getting absolutely schooled by Dwight Howard.

 

JV was too. Just no answer for him tonight at all.

 

Doesn't help ATL is shooting like 50% from 3

[thatoneguy]

Shooting over 80% in the quarter, but the defence is just absolute f***ing trash. So many missed assignments.

[John_Havok]

Shooting over 80% in the quarter, but the defence is just absolute f***ing trash. So many missed assignments.

 

Bright side, maybe this will be the game that slaps the Raps into actually playing defense in the future

[KingKat]

Bright side, maybe this will be the game that slaps the Raps into actually playing defense in the future

 

It seems to me like when it comes to emphasizing defense, Casey is all talk.

[jays_fever]

It seems to me like when it comes to emphasizing defense, Casey is all talk.

 

It's not like Demar and JV are great defenders. When a team is scoring at will and blowing out s***** team by 20+ points a night collaspes like last night will happen.

[burlingtonbandit]

The Raps just don't have good defenders on the team. Derozan, Ross and even Lowry give up a ton of straight line drives. Carroll used to be good but since the injuries he's been pretty hit or miss. Joseph is really the only good perimeter defender on the team so when has a bad game it really comes out.

 

And once you penetrate JV isn't good enough to protect the rim.

[dineke]

It seems to me like when it comes to emphasizing defense, Casey is all talk.

 

the raptors' D have gone from bad to good to bad again etc. since 2012. Casey will focus on defense next year after they give up 150 points a game to the bulls in the playoffs and they'll be decent again.

[Abomination]

It's worth pointing out that the Hawks have also beaten the Cavs this year.

[KingKat]

It's not like Demar and JV are great defenders. When a team is scoring at will and blowing out s***** team by 20+ points a night collaspes like last night will happen.

 

I have no problem with focusing on your strength. Just seems to me that Casey says a lot of empty things about the importance of defense even at times when his actions suggest he's not actually prioritizing it. I think he seems himself as a more defensive minded coach than he actually is. That's not necessarily a problem for this team as currently constructed.

[Orgfiller]

I think a problem that is just as bad as the defense is the rebounding. We're constantly getting out rebounded by a wide margin, allowing the opposition to get multiple shot attempts per possession. It's like no one boxes out, JV tries his best but he probably isn't in top form as we've seen this year, and it can't just be him. Someone like Lowry usually puts up a good effort there, but he's way too small to be grabbing boards from opposing bigs if no one is boxing them out. Nogueira always gets overworked on the glass, mostly due to lack of strength and poor basketball IQ, he just gets bullied by the more competent big men.

[Abomination]

I think a problem that is just as bad as the defense is the rebounding. We're constantly getting out rebounded by a wide margin, allowing the opposition to get multiple shot attempts per possession. It's like no one boxes out, JV tries his best but he probably isn't in top form as we've seen this year, and it can't just be him. Someone like Lowry usually puts up a good effort there, but he's way too small to be grabbing boards from opposing bigs if no one is boxing them out. Nogueira always gets overworked on the glass, mostly due to lack of strength and poor basketball IQ, he just gets bullied by the more competent big men.

 

I feel like the team should try having Nog and JV on the floor at the same time. Nog doesn't do well under the net, but is very effective at getting rebounds that go further out, and blocking shots when he can range a little and isn't being bodied. JV is more effective near the net, but isn't very mobile atm.

[jays_fever]

I think a problem that is just as bad as the defense is the rebounding. We're constantly getting out rebounded by a wide margin, allowing the opposition to get multiple shot attempts per possession. It's like no one boxes out, JV tries his best but he probably isn't in top form as we've seen this year, and it can't just be him. Someone like Lowry usually puts up a good effort there, but he's way too small to be grabbing boards from opposing bigs if no one is boxing them out. Nogueira always gets overworked on the glass, mostly due to lack of strength and poor basketball IQ, he just gets bullied by the more competent big men.

 

They're dead last in def. rebounding so that's a big part of the problem yea

[Abomination]

Payton's haircut looks ridiculous. They say he's not shooting well ... he probably can't see the rim.

[Orgfiller]

Payton's haircut looks ridiculous. They say he's not shooting well ... he probably can't see the rim.

 

Lmao I was going to comment on his hair as well.

[Orgfiller]

JV doing some serious work on the glass. We're getting tons of offensive rebounds.

[burlingtonbandit]

Man the Magic suck. Not sure I've seen a team shoot the ball worse.

[burlingtonbandit]

[Bobthe4th]

Russell Westbrook is currently averaging a triple double for the season. It may not be sustainable, and the Thunder aren't serious contenders in the West, but it's fun to watch him dominate.

 

He's had 13 triple doubles this season so far. To put that in context there's been 18 by Raptors in franchise history.

[GD]

Russell Westbrook is currently averaging a triple double for the season. It may not be sustainable, and the Thunder aren't serious contenders in the West, but it's fun to watch him dominate.

 

He's had 13 triple doubles this season so far. To put that in context there's been 18 by Raptors in franchise history.

 

One of which by Beno Udrih, to stop us from drafting Damian Lillard.

[burlingtonbandit]

One of which by Beno Udrih, to stop us from drafting Damian Lillard.

 

They get Lillard there's no Lowry, who is the better player. Lillard is amazing offensively but kills a lot of it with his defense.

[dineke]

They get Lillard there's no Lowry, who is the better player. Lillard is amazing offensively but kills a lot of it with his defense.

 

Well if there's no lowry then we would have had our 1st round pick when masai wanted to draft giannis.

 

Lillard + giannis > lowry

[burlingtonbandit]

Well if there's no lowry then we would have had our 1st round pick when masai wanted to draft giannis.

 

Lillard + giannis > lowry

 

Its not even a given Masai is here if they take Lillard...

[burlingtonbandit]

Good article about why Patterson is so valuable.

 

https://theathletic.com/30429/2016/12/20/what-is-patrick-pattersons-most-essential-skill/

[GD]

Feels like his athleticism (including size) and decision making just lets him fit in a ton of different lineups.

[burlingtonbandit]

Feels like his athleticism (including size) and decision making just lets him fit in a ton of different lineups.

 

Yeah his defensive versatility is big. Kind of a poor man's Draymond in that way that he can guard the 3 to 5 and switch on to guards. And on the offensive end he shoots the 3 enough to open up the floor for everyone else.

[John_Havok]

Brooklyn was up on golden state by 16 at halftime, the proceeded to lose the game... by 16.

 

Awful second half

[jays_fever]

Well they are a awful team

[burlingtonbandit]

Apparently this draft is the best one in the last 10 years. Nice that the Raps have two First round picks even though they are at the back end. Would have been sweet to trade last years top 10 for a similar pick this year.