Travis Snider vs Melky Cabrera

[G-Snarls]

Snider is getting full playing time for the Pirates. Although he's hitting for a lower average his OBP is similar and slugging is a bit better. Both are unspectacular but dependable defenders. Melky supposedly has a plus arm but I don't recall a single OF assist this year. Both are slow as $h!t. I ask you - Is Melky worth 8M compared to having kept Snider at 500K? Discuss.

 

2013

 

Snider .285 wOBA, OPS .653 with 3HR, 0.1 WAR

 

Cabrera .302 wOBA, OPS .686 with 3 HR, -0.1 WAR

[G-Snarls]

For the record?

 

I was against the Snider trade.

 

But once he was gone I thought the Cabrera signing was fantastic

 

But he hasn't lived up to expectations

[HERPDERP]

Remember how everyone was ecstatic about the Melky signing and his performance in ST?

 

Don't you dare flipflop.

[Angrioter]

For the record?

 

I was against the Snider trade.

 

But once he was gone I thought the Cabrera signing was fantastic

 

But he hasn't lived up to expectations

 

Right now

RLP >> Snider > Melky

[KSaw]

It's not even half a season and Melky has been hobbled. Fair?

[flafson]

Melky was very good early on but cooled off alot since he had those legs problems. I could be wrong but i think Melky has higher potential.

[flafson]

Maybe Lincoln will improve if you give him another year or two, who knows.

[G-Snarls]

Melky was very good early on but cooled off alot since he had those legs problems. I could be wrong but i think Melky has higher potential.

 

Oh for sure. He's had 2 really really good MLB seasons and Snider never has.

 

Melky was hitting way better in spring training. He still has it in him.

[G-Snarls]

Really both guys have been underwhelming obviously.

 

They should both be >800 OPS bats. Both have seemingly lost almost all of their extra base power.

 

I agree that Melky probably gets better once he's past his current leg problems.

[HERPDERP]

Really both guys have been underwhelming obviously.

 

They should both be >800 OPS bats. Both have seemingly lost almost all of their extra base power.

 

I agree that Melky probably gets better once he's past his current leg problems.

 

I just don't see how Melky can recover. The guy continues to play on a turf and it's been 3 months now, 4 including ST. You'd think he'd recover in a few weeks but nope.

 

I don't think even a DL stint will help. The guy is a liability in the field at the moment and I can see him getting traded in the offseason.

[DuckDuckGose]

Snider is getting full playing time for the Pirates. Although he's hitting for a lower average his OBP is similar and slugging is a bit better. Both are unspectacular but dependable defenders. Melky supposedly has a plus arm but I don't recall a single OF assist this year. Both are slow as $h!t. I ask you - Is Melky worth 8M compared to having kept Snider at 500K? Discuss.

 

2013

 

Snider .285 wOBA, OPS .653 with 3HR, 0.1 WAR

 

Cabrera .302 wOBA, OPS .686 with 3 HR, -0.1 WAR

 

Snider wOBA by month (wRC+);

 

Apr - .354 (128)

May - .291 (85)

Jun - .213 (31)

[KSaw]

Maybe Lincoln will improve if you give him another year or two, who knows.

 

Lincoln looked very good in his last 2 appearances prior to being sent back to Buffalo. In fact he was filthy during that 18 inning win. He was the number's game victim because the pen was gassed and his arm was the most tired.

[dineke]

"Um Sir, do you want this pile of s***, or that pile of s***?"

[DuckDuckGose]

For the record?

 

I was against the Snider trade.

 

But once he was gone I thought the Cabrera signing was fantastic

 

But he hasn't lived up to expectations

 

Against the Snider trade. My dream off-season was Dickey + Melky. I got my wish but both have been terrible.

[G-Snarls]

Against the Snider trade. My dream off-season was Dickey + Melky. I got my wish but both have been terrible.

 

Ditto

 

Sad isn't it?

 

Though my #1 dream was probably Yu Darvish and Justin Upton

[Kelly Gruber]

I just don't see how Melky can recover. The guy continues to play on a turf and it's been 3 months now, 4 including ST. You'd think he'd recover in a few weeks but nope.

 

I don't think even a DL stint will help. The guy is a liability in the field at the moment and I can see him getting traded in the offseason.

 

I really think that once Reyes gets it going at the plate, we should put Melky on the DL for 3-4 weeks. It is obvious he playing at 75% max right now. We would get just as good of production out of a Gose/Davis platoon, substantially better defence and baserunning. Hopefully Melky could come back recovered and play like the player we were expecting for the last two months of the season.

[DuckDuckGose]

Ditto

 

Sad isn't it?

 

Though my #1 dream was probably Yu Darvish and Justin Upton

 

Both have been playing hurt and way under expectations. Very sad.

 

I was all over Darvish and Latos but, I have to admit BJ scared me off of JUpton.

[Sparky12]

I wouldn't say Snider is slow as s***, I thought he had reasonable speed?

[G-Snarls]

Both have been playing hurt and way under expectations. Very sad.

 

I was all over Darvish and Latos but, I have to admit BJ scared me off of JUpton.

 

Justin >> BJ

[G-Snarls]

I wouldn't say Snider is slow as s***, I thought he had reasonable speed?

 

Yeah I might be being a bit unfair there. Snider probably has average speed.

[DuckDuckGose]

Justin >> BJ

 

IMO BJ has a terrible attitude and it really hinders his production. Admittedly, I thought it was a family trait but, Justin is proving me wrong.

[G-Snarls]

IMO BJ has a terrible attitude and it really hinders his production. Admittedly, I thought it was a family trait but, Justin is proving me wrong.

 

Yeah. Justin looks like the real deal and worthy of his #1 pick status.

[Arkadium]

Snider wOBA by month (wRC+);

 

Apr - .354 (128)

May - .291 (85)

Jun - .213 (31)

 

I'd still take Travis over Melky..........

[KSaw]

I'd still take Travis over Melky..........

 

I'd take Schierholtz over them both and he's available.

[TheHurl]

League average guys for $2M are the signings that all teams should be looking for (in reference to Schierholtz ) but trading for him expecting him to continue his current pace would be a mistake.

[TheHurl]

Yeah. Justin looks like the real deal and worthy of his #1 pick status.

 

You haven't looked recently have you?

 

Last 28 days

 

BJ .231/.341/.435

Justin .200/.305/.256

 

They are starting to sit BJ against certain righties so his OPS is looking better because of it. Justin has been horrible all month though.

[flafson]

Schierholtz doesn't look impressive to me...

[DuckDuckGose]

I'd still take Travis over Melky..........

 

You're crazy.

[Arkadium]

You're crazy.

 

All you can see is his PED-inflated numbers.

[DuckDuckGose]

Or you realize Snider is AAAA filler.