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Most of them were high risk/high reward picks and mostly high school players.

 

can we stop with this s***? Why can't we draft more Stromans? Every pitcher is from High School, and they aren't panning out!

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can we stop with this s***? Why can't we draft more Stromans? Every pitcher is from High School, and they aren't panning out!

 

Like Deck McGuire you mean?

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Maybe he has a lack of cooking skill or he's vegetarian or something? Damn fat greeks

Even though this is probably the most likely reason, I wouldn't rule out Alex thinking Bickford doesn't have a spot on the depth chart.

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Maybe they know they need more money to sign the other guys.

 

They've signed at least a couple of the others at well below slot value

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Even though this is probably the most likely reason, I wouldn't rule out Alex thinking Bickford doesn't have a spot on the depth chart.

 

Then why the f*** didn't they draft a position player?!?!?!

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Not about money means that Bickford doesn't want to sign with the Jays?

 

If so, that is an AA failure, you need to know these things ahead of the draft

 

AA probably too busy pigging out to do his due diligence

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Then why the f*** didn't they draft a position player?!?!?!

That's simply too much to ask for when discussing the Blue Jays.

 

We prefer to draft pitchers, let them walk unsigned and play the "what if?" game.

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That's simply too much to ask for when discussing the Blue Jays.

 

We prefer to draft pitchers, let them walk unsigned and play the "what if?" game.

 

We will have so many Aces in our system :D

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2 top 15 2014 draft>>>>>> Bickford and top 15 next year

I'm most excited about the top 5 pick we get the following year.

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We will have so many Aces in our system :D

The key term is "in our system". We'll blow their arms out by the time they're 25.

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Like Deck McGuire you mean?

 

Still stings to think the Jays passed on Chris Sale to pick McGuire. I remember following the draft thread that year, and those who seemed knowledgable about prospects were screaming for AA to pick Sale.

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Still stings to think the Jays passed on Chris Sale to pick McGuire. I remember following the draft thread that year, and those who seemed knowledgable about prospects were screaming for AA to pick Sale.

 

Some were saying Chris Sale but some were also saying Josh Sale. It's hindsight 20/20

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The key term is "in our system". We'll blow their arms out by the time they're 25.

 

This is AA's fourth draft. He's developed zero players for the team at all, let alone any aces.

 

The velocity system work out will help with that and they were mostly highschool players.

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Still stings to think the Jays passed on Chris Sale to pick McGuire. I remember following the draft thread that year, and those who seemed knowledgable about prospects were screaming for AA to pick Sale.

 

Yes but who knows, maybe Sale made it clear he didn't want to go to the Jays

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Yes but who knows, maybe Sale made it clear he didn't want to go to the Jays

 

Very possible, of course, but it is important to keep the scouting department accountable.

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I f***ing love this, especially if they get tellez and brentz. A lot of guys were blowing smoke up Bickford's ass. Not a true first round talent in a weak draft demands 4 f***ing million dollars. f*** him and get three first round picks next year.
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Yeah, the whole point of popping Bickford so early should be to open up a pool of money to sign a couple of guys like Brentz and Tellez.

 

As if something like ~2 million isn't enough for Phil f***ing Bickford, who really wasn't even on the radar at #10. He was a kid that most thought would fall to the supplemental round.

 

Kind of excited for the two top 10 picks in next year's draft though.

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I'm most excited about the top 5 pick we get the following year.

 

Booooooooo

 

We're not tanking yet

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I wanted Bickford signed, but only under slot or maybe at slot. We'll have to wait till next year to see if this is made up for by getting a better talent. I thought this was a very important draft given how much talent was traded away, but in reality all drafts are important. If they can get Brentz, Tellez and another guy, it would lessen the blow.
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1 first round pick for this

1 first round pick (hopefully, depends who signs him) for JJ leaving

 

Deep talented draft next year

 

I guess I can live with this

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Booooooooo

 

We're not tanking yet

 

The Jays don't tank and they don't crawl. They are the doggy-paddlers of baseball.

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Like Deck McGuire you mean?

 

Really now? Out of all our drafted pitchers under AA, Stroman seems the most polished and the most ready. McGuire was a bad pick in general, we passed on Chris Sale in that draft!

 

Even though this is probably the most likely reason, I wouldn't rule out Alex thinking Bickford doesn't have a spot on the depth chart.

 

I don't have complete memory of the draft, but, was there no good bats that we could have picked 10th overall?

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The guys AA has hired then. The Jays haven't developed anyone under AA.

 

This is baseball not hockey, AA has only been in since 2009. High schoolers probably take 4-6 years before they crack the bigs.

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This is AA's fourth draft. He's developed zero players for the team at all, let alone any aces.

 

Players take time to develop. This isn't the NHL or NBA.

 

From 2010, only 8 of the top 50 picks (first round) have appeared in the majors so far (and two of those were fairly brief).

From 2011, only 5 of the top 60 picks (first round) have appeared, and only 2 (Rendon and Fernandez) have done anything noteworthy.

From 2012, only 2 of the top 60 picks (first round) have appeared (Wacha and Gausman).

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I don't have complete memory of the draft, but, was there no good bats that we could have picked 10th overall?

 

I think AA said he really wanted a bat, but the ones he wanted went before we picked. He didn't like what was available at pick 10, so went with a pitcher.

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Really now? Out of all our drafted pitchers under AA, Stroman seems the most polished and the most ready. McGuire was a bad pick in general, we passed on Chris Sale in that draft!

 

You might be too young to remember, but back in the Ricciardi era the Jays were notorious for drafting 'safe' college pitchers over higher risk high schooler's..... to much complaint from baseball forum geeks

 

Syndergaard looks to be the best pitcher drafted by the Jays in the past decade :(

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