The DDT - Draft Day 1 thread

[GD]

Not in an elitist mood. Just troublesome about all the crying going on in the thread.

 

I'm not sure I like where this is going, but we're fans. "Fans" is short for fanatics.

 

fanatics plural of fa·nat·ic (Noun)

Noun

A person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, esp. for an extreme religious or political cause.

A person with an obsessive interest in and enthusiasm for something, esp. an activity.

 

Of course we're gonna be crazy, I don't think it's anything to be mad about, really.

[GeorgiaPeach]

Are you kidding? That's a huge deal. I've lost any credibility I once had. I'm ashamed. I will now take my leave.

 

lol

 

As I said, not a big deal. But how can't you know about Rookie, A-, A, A+, AA & AAA. But somehow be upset we're missing out on Amateur prospects that 99+% of fans have seen very little of?

[GD]

Its not a big deal.

 

But in this case you have a poster squawking about missing out on prospects and can't figure out the Minor League structure.....seems odd to me.

 

I think you have your reasoning for why I'm a moron mixed up. Which is peculiar, because there are plenty.

[GD]

As I said, not a big deal. But how can't you know about Rookie, A-, A, A+, AA & AAA. But somehow be upset we're missing out on Amateur prospects that 99+% of fans have seen very little of?

 

Tell me with a straight face that just because someone made a mistake and doesn't know everything about something, means their opinion is completely invalid. Because if that's true, there aren't any valid opinions whatsoever.

 

I'm also kinda f***ing amazed/scared you remembered this despite it was a random post multiple weeks ago.

[o2cui2i]

U upset he doesn't do what he says?

 

Awwwww

 

no, just linked the fact that he has done a U turn all many his policies that were his mantra the first years on the job. he also just fired Blank-O and he had promised him he wouldn't.

 

what are AA's core beliefs now?

[ace3113]

If we have enough bonus money left for one player (let's say 1.2mm or more) who would you guys want to sign? Or would you split it and get 2 guys for 600-700k each. Considering Sanberg went for 775k maybe we can get Tellez and Martinez for 600k each.

[GD]

If we have enough bonus money left for one player (let's say 1.2mm or more) who would you guys want to sign? Or would you split it and get 2 guys for 600-700k each. Considering Sanberg went for 775k maybe we can get Tellez and Martinez for 600k each.

 

Boldt, Quantrill, Martarano, Tellez, Whitson, and Martinez are my hard-sign guys.

[Atothe]

I disagree. There are some very nice hitting prospects: Healy, Denney, O'Neill, Milone, etc. If we went MAINLY pitching I wouldn't be half as mad. But ALL pitching in the EARLY rounds? I strongly disagree with it. Even if we had gone mainly pitching in the early rounds but taken a chance on one of the good bats, that wouldj be pretty satisfying imo.

 

How do you like how the jays are developing Dean, Davis, Anderson, Nay and etc? New scouting director so different approach I guess. 5 years we'll know if this was a good draft

[Angrioter]

How do you like how the jays are developing Dean, Davis, Anderson, Nay and etc? New scouting director so different I guess. 5 years we'll know if this was a good draft

 

3 years

[admin]

Can one or two of you do a full draft recap after it's done? This is probably the least I followed in ten years.

[Pulk_Pull]

Hahaha at the amount of PMS in this thread

 

This place (and the old board) reads like the Leafs HF boards.

[Folkways]

Do you have a study showing this?

 

__________

 

Devastating hook? His curve isn't great.

 

There are a ton of studies that show an 18 year old pitcher is more likely to improve more then a 21 or 22 year old pitcher. Just like in hockey a 18 year old rookie in the nhl almost will always improve significantly by the time they reach 21 or 22. If an 18 year old can throw 94 and a 22 year old throws 94 who do you think has more potential to reach the high 90's?

 

It's common sense. If we were to rank Mcdavid in hockey talent wise with the top prospects in hockey he may not be top 10, but most teams would probably take him top 3 in the draft. That is why 20 year old hockey players who are ranked skill wise equal to top picks in a draft are taken way later.

 

An 18 year old like Bickford with the ability to throw 97 mph has never had to rely on an off speed pitch. So it's unreasonable to assume his off speed stuff has maxed out when he likely hasn't even attempted to develop an off speed pitch.

Edited June 8, 2013 by Folkways

[John_Havok]

Can one or two of you do a full draft recap after it's done? This is probably the least I followed in ten years.

 

Ditto. This has been a very underwhelming draft.

[sack_bunt]

If we were to rank Mcdavid in hockey talent wise with the top prospects in hockey he may not be top 10, but most teams would probably take him top 3 in the draft.

 

 

McDavid would go 1st overall in this draft and every other draft leading up to his actual draft.

 

Still weird/stupid the Jays took so many pitchers but I guess when you completely empty your farm system for aging, broken down pitchers you gotta start somewhere.

[Abomination]

You have to wonder if maybe we'll go position players for the international signing period in July.

[GD]

You have to wonder if maybe we'll go position players for the international signing period in July.

 

Like who? We only have a small budget and most of these guys are ridiculously raw.

 

Aldemys Diaz would be an awesome signing, but I don't know if he's a July guy or an offseason guy.

[ElNik2013]

I don't have much time to follow the draft, so thanks to those who have been posting scouting reports and mock drafts.

 

Not saying that I love the Bickford pick, but besides the big arm and frame, you have to like the fastball command drills his dad put him through. If he has good command of his fastball, he's ahead of so many other high schoolers even if he doesn't have plus secondary pitches yet.

[Angrioter]

Like who? We only have a small budget and most of these guys are ridiculously raw.

 

Aldemys Diaz would be an awesome signing, but I don't know if he's a July guy or an offseason guy.

 

11-40 The maximum bonus is 100k dollars.

 

Who will want to sign for 100k dollars?

[DuckDuckGose]

From your list:

 

Cal Quantrill (RHP) and Jake Brentz (LHP).

 

From my list:

 

Chandler Eden (RHP), JB Woodman (CF), Nick Longhi (1B), Rowdy Tellez (1B), and I'll add Willie Calhoun (2B), Elvin Soto ©, Edwin Diaz (SS), and Wesley Jones (3B) to my list now.

From BA's top 200 (sans our picks):

 

Connor Jones (RHP), Kyle Serrano (RHP), Ryan Boldt (CF), Garrett Williams (LHP), Cavan Biggio (3B/2B), Chris Okey ©, A.J. Vanegas (RHP), Garrett Hampson (SS), AJ Puk (LHP/1B), Jordan Sheffield (RHP), Aaron Brown (LHP), Stephen Wrenn (OF), Zach Collins (C/1B), Brett Morales (RHP), Eric Lauer (LHP), Thomas Hatch (RHP), Alec Hansen (RHP), Trevor Morrison (SS), Will Crowe (RHP), Trevor Clifton (RHP), John Riley ©, Adam Engel (OF), Dominic Taccolini (RHP), Alex Grosner (RHP), David Gates (RHP), Lukas Schiraldi (RHP), Cody Thomas (OF), Ronnie Gideon (3B), Johnewshy Fargas (OF), Andy Hillis (RHP), Keegan Thompson (RHP), Robert Tyler (RHP), Andy McGuire (3B).

 

Im eyeing Biggio, Longhi and Woodman. Any idea what these guys are asking for?

[Angrioter]

Im eyeing Biggio, Longhi and Woodman. Any idea what these guys are asking for?

 

add Manny Ramirez Jr

[DuckDuckGose]

11-40 The maximum bonus is 100k dollars.

 

Who will want to sign for 100k dollars?

 

They can sign for more but anything over 100k comes out of your budget...

[DuckDuckGose]

add Manny Ramirez Jr

 

Manny was a headcase, im not interested in his less talented offspring.

[DuckDuckGose]

If we have enough bonus money left fo. one player (let's say 1.2mm or more) who would you guys want to sign? Or would you split it and get 2 guys for 600-700k each. Considering Sanberg went for 775k maybe we can get Tellez and Martinez for 600k each.

 

Id want two bats, if AA is going for an arm then i give up

[Angrioter]

They can sign for more but anything over 100k comes out of your budget...

 

yeah, I know

Do you think that will left over money from the first 10 rounds? lol

[Angrioter]

It looks like they cut pre-draft deals with both Bickford and Hollon. So there could be a few hundred thousand left in the budget.

 

Bickford 2.5 (save 400K)

Hollon 750 (save 400K)

[DuckDuckGose]

yeah, I know

Do you think that will left over money from the first 10 rounds? lol

 

I'm hoping so, it would be a pretty brutal draft (on paper at least) if AA doesn't snag a couple guys today.

[Angrioter]

I'm hoping so, it would be a pretty brutal draft (on paper at least) if AA doesn't snag a couple guys today.

 

AA looking the next Kevin Pillar kid.

[Folkways]

McDavid would go 1st overall in this draft and every other draft leading up to his actual draft.

 

Still weird/stupid the Jays took so many pitchers but I guess when you completely empty your farm system for aging, broken down pitchers you gotta start somewhere.

 

I am just guessing but perhaps the Jays scouts don't feel as confident in their ability to project hitting prospects vs pitching prospects. I liked the Anthony Alford gamble they made last year though, hopefully he craps out in football and plays with the jays farm. It would be nice to see them go after some hitting prospects with high ceilings. Though its possible they don't know who the high ceiling hitters are. With pitching they seem to just go after big frame, low age, high velocity guys. I wonder what their criteria is for hitting. I wonder if they value bat-speed more vs batting avg, or speed vs power etc.

[KingKat]

hopefully he craps out in football and plays with the jays farm.

 

He had just about the biggest clusterf*** of a season that a quaterback could have and he still hasn't committed to baseball. This guy is looking like a two sport bust because he's in love with the wrong sport.

[Angrioter]

Blue jays - Jacob Brentz HS LHP