Possible Trade and Free Agent Scenarios

[GD]

I would much rather that route. Patch up the rotation and let the young arms have time to develop. Eventually phase the younger arms into the rotation (what little we have right now) and follow the Rays model of dealing them off before they get expensive.

 

The Jays have the means to play with moderate to big payrolls, and I would much rather see that money put into the offense.

 

I would love Baker or Haren but Burnett's probably retiring, Doc is probably done, Hudson meh and Jimenez is Romero.

 

It's not the biggest pool of options.

[G-Snarls]

I would love Baker or Haren but Burnett's probably retiring, Doc is probably done, Hudson meh and Jimenez is Romero.

 

It's not the biggest pool of options.

 

Soo... Trade for David Price?

 

Joking

 

(The thought of Friedman vs a desperate Anthopoulos frightens me)

[Angrioter]

Trade #2 (Deadline): Bonifacio to the Braves for Christian Bethancourt (a defense first catcher)

 

Trade #3: Rasmus to whoever. Mets and Cubs need CF, but Cubs only have position prospects and Mets wouldn't give Wheeler. The Reds may want him (Leake? Cingrani?). Most other teams are set at CF.

 

Boni for Betancourt?

Rasmus for Wheeler/Cingrani?

 

MLB the Show 2013

[GD]

Soo... Trade for David Price?

 

Joking

 

(The thought of Friedman vs a desperate Anthopoulos frightens me)

 

We'd probably give Lawrie + Bautista + Encarnacion + Morrow + Gose + Reyes lol.

 

Burnett's going to take a two-year deal with a high AAV, not sure why people are talking him down. One of the best pitchers in the National League.

 

Maholm's out there too, he could be decent.

 

Where'd I talk him down? From what I've seen he's retiring. If we signed him I'm thrilled but I don't think he leaves Pittsburgh if he even plays next year.

 

Maholm may be decent but NL pitchers are starting to scare me.

[G-Snarls]

No way Burnett leaves Pittsburg

 

He's had problems everywhere else and he must be happy with his current situation and they must be happy with what they're getting

 

#Marriagemadeinheaven

[Angrioter]

No way Burnett leaves Pittsburg

 

He's had problems everywhere else and he must be happy with his current situation and they must be happy with what they're getting

 

#Marriagemadeinheaven

 

wut?

 

Taillon, Cole, Locke, Liriano, Wandy and McDonald

[G-Snarls]

wut?

 

Taillon, Cole, Locke, Liriano, Wandy and McDonald

 

That's the kind of depth you need

[Dr. Dinger]

I didn't read any of this thread... Did anyone mention Evan Gattis? He would be perfect for an AL Team with questionable options at C and 1B.

[Angrioter]

I didn't read any of this thread... Did anyone mention Evan Gattis? He would be perfect for an AL Team with questionable options at C and 1B.

 

Ala Ryan Doumit

[DuckDuckGose]

I didn't read any of this thread... Did anyone mention Evan Gattis? He would be perfect for an AL Team with questionable options at C and 1B.

 

Not yet, I can't imagine the Braves letting him go though... Is he a FA at the end of the year?

[DuckDuckGose]

He's a rookie, so... probably not.

 

Cot's doesn't have him as arb eligible though, perhaps his weird route to the majors has him on a one year deal w/o control?

[Angrioter]

(Pacers 12-6 Heat)

[DuckDuckGose]

That only happens in really rare cases involving international free agents (e.g. Cespedes has a four-year deal). Gattis was drafted in 2010, no special circumstances.

 

I expect the Braves will lose McCann to FA, so they'll want to keep Gattis. I'd be in on McCann but maybe the Yankees offer him a whole pile of money.

 

Ya, looking at B/R they list him as arb eligible in 2016 and earliest FA in 2019. I'd love to add Gattis but I can't see the Braves parting with him.

[G-Snarls]

(Pacers 12-6 Heat)

 

Miami starting to run away with it now

 

50-37

[Dr. Dinger]

Not yet, I can't imagine the Braves letting him go though... Is he a FA at the end of the year?

 

He has many years of control left, I am mentioning him as a trade candidate. It's not a sure bet that the Braves want him over Brian McCann next year and going forward. McCann is a FA, but they might look to bring him back.

[Mike_Wilner]

Cano would be a good signing. His age 40 season is going to be really good

[Chappy]

I would love Baker or Haren but Burnett's probably retiring, Doc is probably done, Hudson meh and Jimenez is Romero.

 

It's not the biggest pool of options.

 

If the offense is bolstered by a significant acquisition (ie. Cano) and the pen is shored up, then we won't necessarily need any significant arms, just solid ones. Any of Haren, Burnett, Hudson and Jimenez could fit the bill. With a rotation already consisting of Dickey, Morrow, Buehrle, Happ and Hutchison, we probably only need to add one short term veteran into the mix and will need at least 3 capable arms ready in AA or AAA.

 

Realistically, the only capable arm in the minors who may be ready to legitimately contribute in 2014 is Nolin. Jenkins may offer a temporary stop-gap as well, but not someone we should count on. If contention remains the only option then AA has to bring in 2 more solid SP options into the high minors, find a legitimate 2B (Cano?) and bring in another veteran SP on a short term contract.

[OtisNixonFan]

If the offense is bolstered by a significant acquisition (ie. Cano) and the pen is shored up, then we won't necessarily need any significant arms, just solid ones. Any of Haren, Burnett, Hudson and Jimenez could fit the bill. With a rotation already consisting of Dickey, Morrow, Buehrle, Happ and Hutchison, we probably only need to add one short term veteran into the mix and will need at least 3 capable arms ready in AA or AAA.

 

Realistically, the only capable arm in the minors who may be ready to legitimately contribute in 2014 is Nolin. Jenkins may offer a temporary stop-gap as well, but not someone we should count on. If contention remains the only option then AA has to bring in 2 more solid SP options into the high minors, find a legitimate 2B (Cano?) and bring in another veteran SP on a short term contract.

 

Marcus Stroman disagrees.. I see no reason to think he can't be a viable starter by opening day next year.

[Chappy]

Marcus Stroman disagrees.. I see no reason to think he can't be a viable starter by opening day next year.

 

You want to count on a guy with 29 career minor league innings as a viable option for a contender? If this team wasn't so messed up I wouldn't even be looking at Nolin as an option either so soon. Not saying he won't be an option, but right now I would rather see him get some innings under his belt in the minors.

 

In either case AA will have a lot of work to do and this team will still probably not legitimately contend. We will probably see some of these younger prospects get flipped for aging vets as AA will be fighting for his job.

[OtisNixonFan]

You want to count on a guy with 29 career minor league innings as a viable option for a contender? If this team wasn't so messed up I wouldn't even be looking at Nolin as an option either so soon. Not saying he won't be an option, but right now I would rather see him get some innings under his belt in the minors.

 

In either case AA will have a lot of work to do and this team will still probably not legitimately contend. We will probably see some of these younger prospects get flipped for aging vets as AA will be fighting for his job.

 

I get the SSS issues, however, there is something about Stroman's makeup that makes me far,far more comfortable with him then with Nolin. His stuff is miles ahead of Nolin. Though you are right, if we are to contend neither of these guys should be anywhere near our 25.

[DuckDuckGose]

You want to count on a guy with 29 career minor league innings as a viable option for a contender? If this team wasn't so messed up I wouldn't even be looking at Nolin as an option either so soon. Not saying he won't be an option, but right now I would rather see him get some innings under his belt in the minors.

 

In either case AA will have a lot of work to do and this team will still probably not legitimately contend. We will probably see some of these younger prospects get flipped for aging vets as AA will be fighting for his job.

 

I think we'd need to add a couple options in FA if the Jays want to compete next year. IMO Hutch, Drabek, Nolin, Jenkins, and Stroman need to be used as AAA depth. AA shouldn't bank on his entire rotation being healthy and pitching well next year, he's made that mistake twice already and he needs to learn from the outcome.

[Abomination]

I think we'd need to add a couple options in FA if the Jays want to compete next year. IMO Hutch, Drabek, Nolin, Jenkins, and Stroman need to be used as AAA depth. AA shouldn't bank on his entire rotation being healthy and pitching well next year, he's made that mistake twice already and he needs to learn from the outcome.

 

I think I hear the Buffalo management licking their lips from here over a rotation next year of Hutch, Drabek, Nolin, Jenkins, and Stroman under that scenario.

[Abomination]

I wonder if the Mets would consider something like Rasmus + Boni for Murphy + Rafael Montero

[GD]

You want to count on a guy with 29 career minor league innings as a viable option for a contender? If this team wasn't so messed up I wouldn't even be looking at Nolin as an option either so soon. Not saying he won't be an option, but right now I would rather see him get some innings under his belt in the minors.

 

In either case AA will have a lot of work to do and this team will still probably not legitimately contend. We will probably see some of these younger prospects get flipped for aging vets as AA will be fighting for his job.

 

Stroman is generally viewed as the most MLB ready product from last draft and would have been up last year (most likely) had he not gotten suspended. His makeup and stuff both lead me to believe he'll be fairly successful and is ready to contribute.

 

That slider makes me drool.

 

I wonder if the Mets would consider something like Rasmus + Boni for Murphy + Rafael Montero

 

Rasmus + Izzy for Murphy + Tapia?

[jaysblue]

If the offense is bolstered by a significant acquisition (ie. Cano) and the pen is shored up, then we won't necessarily need any significant arms, just solid ones. Any of Haren, Burnett, Hudson and Jimenez could fit the bill. With a rotation already consisting of Dickey, Morrow, Buehrle, Happ and Hutchison, we probably only need to add one short term veteran into the mix and will need at least 3 capable arms ready in AA or AAA.

 

Realistically, the only capable arm in the minors who may be ready to legitimately contribute in 2014 is Nolin. Jenkins may offer a temporary stop-gap as well, but not someone we should count on. If contention remains the only option then AA has to bring in 2 more solid SP options into the high minors, find a legitimate 2B (Cano?) and bring in another veteran SP on a short term contract.

 

Cano is not coming to Toronto, lets all be realistic. I don't want the Jays to sign him to a 7 year deal worth close to $180-$200 million which is what a lot of people think he'll demand and get from the Yankees. There is no way the Yankees let him go - with all aging stars like Jeter, A-Rod etc, Cano is their franchise player.

 

Ian Kinsler is a more realistic option.

[jaysblue]

Cano would be a good signing. His age 40 season is going to be really good

 

You would likely have him for age 40 season by the end of it. There saying the Yankees could give Cano a 7 year deal worth $180-$200 million, and if they are ready to propose that, the Jays have to beat that significantly for Cano to consider coming here. Don't see it happening, and I'm shocked some posters here are living on cloud nine even suggesting the Jays go after Cano which is a pipe dream.

[Angrioter]

I think I hear the Buffalo management licking their lips from here over a rotation next year of Hutch, Drabek, Nolin, Jenkins, and Stroman under that scenario.

 

McGuire?

[Angrioter]

You would likely have him for age 40 season by the end of it. There saying the Yankees could give Cano a 7 year deal worth $180-$200 million, and if they are ready to propose that, the Jays have to beat that significantly for Cano to consider coming here. Don't see it happening, and I'm shocked some posters here are living on cloud nine even suggesting the Jays go after Cano which is a pipe dream.

 

Source: Cano rejected from the Yankees a 178 million offer. Boras said talks would begin in 215 million, then Cano's father said "He will be a Yankee from the rest of his life"

Cano's father comments and pressure from the Yankees, Cano decided to dismiss Boras.

[G-Snarls]

Source: Cano rejected from the Yankees a 178 million offer. Boras said talks would begin in 215 million, then Cano's father said "He will be a Yankee from the rest of his life"

Cano's father comments and pressure from the Yankees, Cano decided to dismiss Boras.

 

Story continued...

 

Yankees counter during the All Star break with 185M via a few extra incentives

 

Jay-Z and Cano accept and party like it's 1995

[G-Snarls]

Cliff Lee anyone?

 

MLBTR:

 

As with most partial no-trade clauses, Cliff Lee and his agents at Frontline had the opportunity before the season to restructure his. Lee can block trades to 20 teams, writes Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports, including the Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, and Orioles. Most of the 20 are projected trade deadline buyers, a source tells Morosi. Keep in mind that the presence of these teams does not mean Lee will automatically block a trade to them; it just means he has leverage if the Phillies strike a deal with one.

 

Lee, 34, has been dominant for the Phillies in 2013. His 88 1/3 innings rank second in the National League, his 2.45 ERA ranks eighth, and his 5.69 K/BB ratio ranks second. The Phillies, winners of two in a row, are 7.5 games back in the NL East and faring about the same in the wild card. Nonetheless, Clay Davenport's projections give them a 15.6% chance of making the playoffs. On May 11th the Phils were five games back, and around that time, a "Phillies insider" told Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe, "Every time I hear a Lee rumor, I don’t believe it. Don’t think we’d be that dumb unless what we got back in return was so overwhelming that we’d be dumb to pass it up. Will that happen? My gut is it won’t." By Sunday, however, a couple dozen executives, scouts, and players polled by Cafardo named Lee the best starter expected to be available at the trade deadline this year.

 

Lee signed a five-year, $120MM deal with the Phillies in December 2010. At the deadline he'll be owed about $6.25MM this year plus $62.5MM covering 2014-15, for a total of $68.75MM. That's if the record-setting $12.5MM buyout is paid on his 2016 club option, which becomes guaranteed if Lee is not on the disabled list at the end of 2015 season with an injury to his left elbow or shoulder, and has 200 innings in 2015 or 400 in 2014-15 (according to Cot's Baseball Contracts). If the option vests, it will probably be a good thing, but then the commitment would become $83.75MM through 2016.

 

At any rate, Cliff Lee needs to start checking MLB Trade Rumors. A Lee quote from Morosi: "Every time I’ve been traded, before that every organization would say, ‘You’ll be the first one to know if we’re ever going to move you,’” Lee said, recalling that he learned of each trade while watching television. “I was the last one to know every time." It's been an odd career for Lee since becoming an ace in 2008, as he's been traded three times since. The difference this time is that he comes with a market-value financial commitment.