The Prospect/Minor Leagues Thread

[GD]

I hope you get so drunk that you'll get a tramp stamp tattoo

 

like he doesn't have one already

[Caper]

Max Holocaust had a good first night in Vancouver. 2 for 3 with a double.

[GD]

It's Caper. I'm 76% sure that wasn't autocorrect

[GD]

Does he still have the short stride?

[Frenchsoup]

I was at Sanchez last start and I have to say he looked absolutely fantastic. Durham was having trouble making contact and his delivery was actually very repeatable and consistent which I do not remember from the pre-season. This is an instance where you have to put down the calculator and accept that the new mechanics have made him a new player sample size be damned.

 

If he throws strikes consistently he can obviously dominate. I am in serious doubt that he actually do that though. The arm action is pretty violent to. He is a guy a would definitely move if I could get something good in return.

Edited July 16, 2014 by Frenchsoup

[GD]

-Arm action

-Stride length

-Getting lower in his delivery

 

Those are things he needs to do before I care if he repeats his delivery or not. Why repeat a s***** delivery?

[Frenchsoup]

He threw about 2/3 strikes the game I was at and had no trouble pounding the zone and getting ahead early.

 

That's good to hear but i want to see it for more then just a couple starts. Also once he gets to the majors there going to have a scouting report to take pitches on him so he's going to have the pound the zone if he wants to get past the 5th inning ever.

[Frenchsoup]

His delivery (excluding arm action/slot) was repeatable and consistent in preseason. It almost can't be inconsistent and non-repeatable. Because there's nothing to it. Start upright. Take small stride. Whip ball real hard with arm. Finish upright. Hope ball goes near plate.

 

Hope ball go near plate lol not good for mlb

[DuckDuckGose]

-Arm action

-Stride length

-Getting lower in his delivery

 

Those are things he needs to do before I care if he repeats his delivery or not. Why repeat a s***** delivery?

 

He could definitely improve but let me ask you something; if he can throw it 99mph with nasty movement in the bottom of the zone and filthy secondaries who gives a s*** about nit-picking his delivery?

[DuckDuckGose]

His delivery (excluding arm action/slot) was repeatable and consistent in preseason. It almost can't be inconsistent and non-repeatable. Because there's nothing to it. Start upright. Take small stride. Whip ball real hard with arm. Finish upright. Hope ball goes near plate.

 

Clearly do not know what you are talking about. Give it a rest.

[ElNik2013]

Anybody else think Derrick Loveless deserves some, ummm, love?

 

Nice BB%, not much power, but could be a sleeper. I guess I'm just bored and was trying to find the next Pompey. Will continue to keep an eye on him.

[DuckDuckGose]

Anybody else think Derrick Loveless deserves some, ummm, love?

 

Nice BB%, not much power, but could be a sleeper. I guess I'm just bored and was trying to find the next Pompey. Will continue to keep an eye on him.

 

4th OF potential, nothing to really get excited about at this point.

[GD]

He could definitely improve but let me ask you something; if he can throw it 99mph with nasty movement in the bottom of the zone and filthy secondaries who gives a s*** about nit-picking his delivery?

 

That'd be cool but when down in the zone turns into digging a hole in the dirt to hide his head in after an implosion I don't really dig it. I feel like he'll need a good delivery to have good command, and he doesn't have one right now.

[GD]

And generally speaking from what little experience I have, it's easier to throw a baseball where I want it to go with good mechanics than with bad

[DuckDuckGose]

That'd be cool but when down in the zone turns into digging a hole in the dirt to hide his head in after an implosion I don't really dig it. I feel like he'll need a good delivery to have good command, and he doesn't have one right now.

 

My apologies, I don't understand the expression. I think I understand the jist of it though please correct me if I'm off base in my response.

 

He commands his CB in the zone very well already. He has two issues right now, keeping the ball from running out of the zone and keeping the ball down consistently. He can improve both of those issues simply with repetition. He's never going to be an elite command guy but he doesn't have to be.

[DuckDuckGose]

Bad mechanics = injuries

 

That's not true, bad mechanics can lead to injuries. Unorthodox mechanics = less certainty/more risk. Doesn't have to be a death sentence.

 

There are no red flags in Sanchez's delivery. ie) inverted w

[DuckDuckGose]

And generally speaking from what little experience I have, it's easier to throw a baseball where I want it to go with good mechanics than with bad

 

Need repetitions. You can command a ball with bad mechanics and enough practice.

[Frenchsoup]

That's not true, bad mechanics can lead to injuries. Unorthodox mechanics = less certainty/more risk. Doesn't have to be a death sentence.

 

There are no red flags in Sanchez's delivery. ie) inverted w

 

I think bad mechanics throwing 97 will heighten your chance of injuries. Also his pitch counts have been kept relatively low so he hasn't had many stressful innings. Good for his arm but bad for his development.

[DuckDuckGose]

I think bad mechanics throwing 97 will heighten your chance of injuries. Also his pitch counts have been kept relatively low so he hasn't had many stressful innings. Good for his arm but bad for his development.

 

There are two things that I would point in rebuttal to this point;

 

Who is the authority that says Sanchez's mechanics will lead to injury and is that authority reputable? Historically, we can look at Sanchez's mechanics and know that they make it more difficult to keep the ball down in the zone and that they are bad for maximizing velocity. However, we do not know how they will impact his long term health. Show me a scientific journal or some evidence that Sanchez's delivery heightens the risk of injury and I'd be all ears.

 

Secondly, all pitchers get injured. It's just a matter of when not if and you can't predict who's going to go down first.

[SpeedyGose]

Anyone have KLaw's updated top 50?

[Anemic0ffense]

Bad mechanics = injuries

 

Injuries don't matter. Only his xFIP does.

[SpeedyGose]

I think I saw it on here yesterday?! Either here or FG.

 

That must have been something else, Keith just posted his about 2 hours ago. Thanks though!

[Frenchsoup]

There are two things that I would point in rebuttal to this point;

 

Who is the authority that says Sanchez's mechanics will lead to injury and is that authority reputable? Historically, we can look at Sanchez's mechanics and know that they make it more difficult to keep the ball down in the zone and that they are bad for maximizing velocity. However, we do not know how they will impact his long term health. Show me a scientific journal or some evidence that Sanchez's delivery heightens the risk of injury and I'd be all ears.

 

Secondly, all pitchers get injured. It's just a matter of when not if and you can't predict who's going to go down first.

 

Yeah i don't know what the proper mechanics are, every person is built a different way and you have to feel whats comfortable to for yourself. I know when i use to pitch i would experiment with different arm angles some would give me more velocity,control, and deception but i would end up going with what didn't make my arm as sore the next day. I was also aloud to throw until i said i was tired. This is something the Jays have to trust there players with and the players have to be smart about keeping there arms healthy, it's there careers after all.

[GD]

Injuries don't matter. Only his xFIP does.

 

Incredible.

[43211234]

FYI. Daniel Norris is going to be on baseball central tomorrow on the Fan 590.

Don't think the audio was ever posted.

 

http://pmd.fan590.com/audio_on_demand-3/Daniel-Norris-with-Jeff-Blair-and-Chris-Robinson-bc-20140716-Interview.mp3

[dbyrks]

Miguel Castro last night 5IP 6H 1ER 2BB 6K

I saw that game yesterday - it was my first seeing him pitch, and damn he is impressive to watch. 6.5" and lanky as hell, he still has a lot of filling out to do at only 190 lbs. He was throwing around 94 most of the day, with a few 95's and a 97 at one point (that I saw). He had a changeup go as low as 77. He actually got hit a decent amount yesterday, but a couple of poorly read balls probably could have been outs. He's got great presence on the mound, and looks like a baseball player (if that means anything). He was legit pissed when he gave up a sac fly for his only ER of the game. What's the ceiling on a guy like this? I'd never heard of him until a couple of weeks ago.

 

Oh I have video of a strikeout or two if anyone's interested.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Is it time to push Graveman up another level and see what we have in him?

 

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Graveman I find interesting ! 100 ip and only one Hr against I think that's correct! Impressive

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

I like that! plus 80 strikeouts in that same time frame ain't nothing bad their either! Ground balls and strikeouts how can that be a bad thing to have in a pitcher! Lol

[Angrioter]

Derp........

 

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://prospectinsider.com/tag/miguel-castro&sa=U&ei=vEzIU7fwJdagyAS214GwDw&ved=0CDUQFjAF&usg=AFQjCNE0H2_kDoU_smus2-DVRcypHLNyJA

 

 

Perhaps the most notable part of McBroom’s game is his approach. He looked very calm and collected in the batter’s box and was content to wait for his pitch. Excuse the stretch of a comparison, but I couldn’t help but be reminded of a young Albert Pujols when McBroom was at the plate. It was probably just in stance and size since he doesn’t compare to Pujols skill-wise, but the 22-year old looks like the type of player who is comfortable hitting in the middle of the order. And you’d want him there too with his strong, easy swing. For such a patient approach, McBroom only has two walks on the season and both of which came last night. He also grounded out before being lifted for a pinch-hitter in the blowout.

 

 

Ryan "Albert Pujols" McBroom