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Atothe Vancouver Canadians

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He's pretty dumb not to take the deal. In a year or 2 he could have no future in either sport and be stuck packing groceries somewhere.

 

If he goes back to football next year I doubt he'll ever be anything in baseball. If AA offered him a 5 year major league contract and he turned it down, he's hopeless

burlingtonbandit New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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If he goes back to football next year I doubt he'll ever be anything in baseball. If AA offered him a 5 year major league contract and he turned it down, he's hopeless

 

I would agree. He will be getting too old for his level and won't have enough reps to see the progression. I wonder how much money they offered. Maybe Ole Miss offered more money?

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I would agree. He will be getting too old for his level and won't have enough reps to see the progression. I wonder how much money they offered. Maybe Ole Miss offered more money?

 

I don't think age vs level comes into play here because he isn't getting the repetitions that go along with that evaluation.

 

NCAA players aren't allowed to take money

burlingtonbandit New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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I don't think age vs level comes into play here because he isn't getting the repetitions that go along with that evaluation.

 

NCAA players aren't allowed to take money

 

Aren't allowed and what they do is completely different. Also I believe NCAA players get a stipend starting pretty soon? Ole Miss would not give money to a non impact player like him however.

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The Canadians do their best to pad the numbers of their favorites (but these numbers will be true eventually)and the coaching staff does not manage talent well. Unlikely to 4-peat no matter how many times the announcer says it. The Blue Jays spent a lot of money to get players, some of which are great. But the team and its management are like the canadians...they simply don't make the most of their players - they don't inspire players and some of the best players have recurrent injury problems or their confidence is damaged. Lets hope that our 1st round catcher is ok.

 

 

This is a Brenden Kalfus reference... and your account should be auto-banned.

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Its not Pillar. Its the way the Blue Jays treat him. Given enough AB's his numbers will rise. Coaching and management are messing with his confidence instead of showing confidence in his abilities.

 

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I am no scout or anything, but I am going to the Vancouver Canadians game tomorrow. Anyone interesting of note you guys may want to hear about? Sucks that Max won't be there. :(
burlingtonbandit New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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I am no scout or anything, but I am going to the Vancouver Canadians game tomorrow. Anyone interesting of note you guys may want to hear about? Sucks that Max won't be there. :(

 

Who's the starting pitcher? Obviously Barreto is a guy to keep an eye on both offensively and defensively. Shane you couldn't of seen Sunday's game with Borucki and Smoral.

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This might be one I was seriously wrong on....

 

Lucas Giolito's 2014 season has been so good that even the obstacles of opposing lineups don't seem to be enough for the right-hander. Now he's creating challenges for himself.

 

The Nationals' top prospect removed his curveball from his arsenal and worked strictly with a fastball-changeup mix Monday. And once again, he was nearly untouchable. Giolito allowed just two hits and two walks while striking out six over five shutout innings as Class A Hagerstown defeated Delmarva, 13-7.

 

"I was talking with my coaches, and I thought that it would be cool to go out there and try to work two-pitch combination," Giolito said. "The main things I'm trying to develop are the consistency to command the fastball to both sides of the plate, low in the zone, and throw the changeup as well for a strikeout -- low, inside, outside."

 

Aiming for "more feel and consistency" with his two selected pitches, Giolito (9-2) had to wait a little longer than normal to get his chance to employ it due to a seven-run Hagerstown top of the first.

 

"I was actually still in the bullpen when [Rafael] Bautista hit a leadoff bomb, and I was like, 'Oh, this is going to be a good day,'" he said. "I could tell from the start. It's always great when the offense is able to support you like that."

 

When he got his turn, Giolito diced through Delmarva's lineup. The 20-year-old surrendered two-out singles to Drew Dosch and Creede Simpson in the first and third and walked Chance Sisco and Jared Breen in the fourth, but none of the Shorebirds' four baserunners made it past first.

 

"Defensively, [my team] did a great job," Giolito said. "There were a few hard-hit balls that guys were able to make great plays on. [shortstop] David [Masters] made an unreal play, a diving stop on a ground ball that turned into a double play. That was huge in the second inning. It kind of just got everything moving along really nicely."

 

Throughout the win, Giolito was able to keep Delmarva's hitters off balance, thanks to a rhythm he found with catcher Spencer Kieboom.

 

"We were able to get a good mix going, throw the changeup in the right situation when guys were cheating fastball," he said. "In a fastball count, I threw a lot of changeups. I threw the fastball inside when necessary and outside when necessary. I even through a couple high. We just had really good sequences set up the entire game."

 

Wilmer Difo led the Suns with five hits in six trips to the plate and Carlos Lopez hit a two-run homer as part of his game-high four RBIs.

 

A 2014 Futures Game selection, Giolito has accomplished a lot in his 19 outings with the Suns. Though he falls short of the innings qualification for the South Atlantic League's ERA race, Giolito's 2.23 mark would place him second in the circuit in that category. His 105 strikeouts are fourth-most in the league, and the righty has twice been named South Atlantic League Pitcher of the Week. Nevertheless, Giolito isn't content to simply go through the same motions every start.

 

"There's definitely goals that I set for myself every time I go out there," he said. "I want to improve as a pitcher every time I go out. There's never a start where I'm just going out there and trying to win the game. There's certain little aspects I like to work on. Obviously, we're in Minor League Baseball, so you're trying to develop as a player. All of us are. We all have things we want to work on, and I just want to go out and do that every time as well as try to put up zeros and get the 'W' for the team."

 

As for his next outing, Giolito hasn't determined what personal challenge will await.

 

"I'm not fully sure yet. I'm going to go into my next bullpen, side work and keep working on things and see what my next goal for my next start is. As long as we keep winning, we'll be having fun."

burlingtonbandit New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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If we drafted Giolito do you think we would have been able to draft Stroman as well? Even though Giolito looks like an ace I would probably take Stroman over him right now. Stroman has succeeded at the MLB level and hasn't had a TJS. Knock on wood..
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If we drafted Giolito do you think we would have been able to draft Stroman as well? Even though Giolito looks like an ace I would probably take Stroman over him right now. Stroman has succeeded at the MLB level and hasn't had a TJS. Knock on wood..

 

Stroman wasn't considered a tough sign, I can't see how he would have impacted the Jays ability to draft Giolito. The bigger issue is that he was off the board before the Jays even picked.

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Stroman wasn't considered a tough sign, I can't see how he would have impacted the Jays ability to draft Giolito. The bigger issue is that he was off the board before the Jays even picked.

 

Because he is 4'11"

HERPDERP Vancouver Canadians

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LOL I love how when you talk about him he keeps getting shorter and shorter.

 

Give him a year and he'll be like "Stroman who? We had a pitcher named Stroman?!"

burlingtonbandit New Hampshire Fisher Cats

burlingtonbandit

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Stroman wasn't considered a tough sign, I can't see how he would have impacted the Jays ability to draft Giolito. The bigger issue is that he was off the board before the Jays even picked.

 

Oh I knew he was taking 16th overall 1 pick before us. I just remember that we would of had to save a lot of money to sign him. Moot point now. Anyways how can you not be happy with DJ Davis?

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OT- Man this guy is...:rolleyes::

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/rays-former-first-rounder-sale-suspended/

 

Rays Former First-Rounder Sale Suspended Again

 

Josh Sale, the Rays’ first-round pick in 2010 who was suspended at the end of 2012 for drug use and suspended all of last season by the team for an incident at a strip club, has again been suspended for drug use.

 

I remember a lot of people wanted this guy in the 2010 draft.

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