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Anybody can win in the playoffs, the best team has only won the last two years.

 

You and I know this better than anyone else.

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I think you guys should actually thank me for making sg's juggernaut a bit older and taking his two Top 10 prospects. He already had easily the best team and an elite farm to boot.
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Silvergun already had a heavy favourite, I needed to tend to the future of my core bats. I kind of see this as trading Lester for Torres and Devers, I think Dahl is going to be Cespedes' equal almost immediately.

 

Lolwut

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I'd say I likely lost the trade in a net value sense, but I'm OK with that.

 

I like Dahl a lot, but speaking from experience Col bats are kind of a pain in the ass in h2h, lefty bats are the same, and lefty Col bats are just a f***ing hassle (especially with a bad draw in a playoff week.)

 

Of course, Cespedes probably doesn't keep CF beyond this year and might fall off a cliff soon.

 

Lol are you serious? You got an ace, a top 50 bat and half a season of an elite closer for maybe one impact piece. If all the players you traded turn out to be average, and that's a very unlikely scenario, you still end up winning this trade big time.

Posted
Probably better than Benintendi too this year.

 

Cool, I didn't have to trade 3 impact players to get Benintendi, though.

Posted
You kinda did tho. Traded all your impact players to get him.

 

I actually traded Oscar Taveras' life for Benintendi.

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Lolwut

 

Well they project for nearly identical AVG and OBP.

 

Dahl is more 15/20 while Cespedes is more 25/5 + better R and RBI.

 

I mean with Cespedes' age and quad injury stuff last year, it's very conceivable that Dahl can wRC+ 100 in Coors and easily out-value Yoenis immediately. I don't think it's likely but it's within the realm of possibility.

 

Devers I've always hated but I guess if you squint your nose he smells like Mazara or something like that - just one of those young guys who has all the talent but doesn't OPS a million because he's like 18 years old.

 

I hate both of these owners making this trade so I hope all the players involved DIAF.

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Well they project for nearly identical AVG and OBP.

 

Dahl is more 15/20 while Cespedes is more 25/0 + better R and RBI.

 

I mean with Cespedes' age and quad injury stuff last year, it's very conceivable that Dahl can wRC+ 100 in Coors and easily out-value Yoenis immediately.

 

I think Dahl is going to be a better hitter than Blackmon and ride Coors to fantasy gold. I think its more like 20/30, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him on par with guys like Starling Marte and Christian Yelich this year.

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I actually traded Oscar Taveras' life for Benintendi.

 

And you acquired Taveras by trading all your impact players and tanking for multiple years.

Posted (edited)

Sorry guys, crashed early last night. Took Juan Nicasio.

 

Edit: was able to send TCA a new message that he was OTC. No worries.

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And you acquired Taveras by trading all your impact players and tanking for multiple years.

 

Looking at trade history is hard.

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I'm a big Dahl fan, but lets not pretend he doesn't have warts. Guy recent success is all driven by a .350+ BABIP. Its also possible he has a real issue with K's.

 

I'm going to cheer for him, because I like him as a player. But Cespedes is a pretty clearly better OF IMHO

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But Cespedes is a pretty clearly better OF IMHO

 

Yeah well I think we all agree on that, otherwise silvergun wouldn't have included two Top 10 prospects in addition to him. I don't think there's any question that this trade is leveraged toward SG in the 1-2 year outlook, that's all baked in to the negotiation. I look more at Dahl's AA numbers this year than his MLB numbers, and I see more walk and power potential than he even flashed in his debut. You might all be shocked if he goes 20/20 with an .800 OPS and 100 R this year, but I won't be. He went 25/22 across three levels last year with an outstanding line, and now he gets the Coors bump. When it comes to Rockies players, I care about the wOBA, not the wRC+. On a per game basis he was 2015 Mookie Betts.

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We've had a lot of really nice blockbusters this offseason. The trade history is on fire.

 

Cespedes/Lester/Capps for Dahl/Gleyber/Devers/Wall/picks

 

Abrea/Eaton/Tate for Rodgers/De Leon/Glasnow

 

Marte for Bumgarner for Strasburg 3-way

 

CMart/AlexWood for Swanson/Ventura(RIP in pieces)/Z.Collins

 

Correa for Puig/Hendricks/Paddack

 

Keuchel/Assdribble for Y.Alvarez/Cotton/Gsellman

 

Cutch for C.David/Conforto/Iwakuma for Willy Adames 3-way

 

Beltre/Porcello/Arcia/Fisher for Darvish

 

Manaea/Herrera for Mejia/C.Stewart/Brach/Dyson

 

what's your favourite trade?

Posted
We've had a lot of really nice blockbusters this offseason. The trade history is on fire.

 

Cespedes/Lester/Capps for Dahl/Gleyber/Devers/Wall/picks

 

Abrea/Eaton/Tate for Rodgers/De Leon/Glasnow

 

Marte for Bumgarner for Strasburg 3-way

 

CMart/AlexWood for Swanson/Ventura(RIP in pieces)/Z.Collins

 

Correa for Puig/Hendricks/Paddack

 

Keuchel/Assdribble for Y.Alvarez/Cotton/Gsellman

 

Cutch for C.David/Conforto/Iwakuma for Willy Adames 3-way

 

Beltre/Porcello/Arcia/Fisher for Darvish

 

Manaea/Herrera for Mejia/C.Stewart/Brach/Dyson

 

what's your favourite trade?

 

Biggest trape/headscratcher was Correa by far IMO. I think most of those trades are very sensible from contention cycle perspectives.

Posted
You wouldn't even give me Senzel for Lester! And silvergun gave me two better prospects than Senzel :P

 

I love Lester, but I think my focus will be to stay slightly younger than that with my trade targets.

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I love Lester, but I think my focus will be to stay slightly younger than that with my trade targets.

 

I love him too, but he was pretty lucky on LOB and BABIP last year. If I waited another year, with age and regression, I wouldn't get anything close to Torres + Devers for him. Maybe. Or maybe he'll just be a boss into his late 30s!

Posted
man this is going to be a fun year in the Ruben! (if Richards arm doesn't explode and Urias actually pitches some real innings)
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Wow, surprised z3r0s turned down Lester for Senzel, given where his team is and that ace is his biggest hole. Lester is a machine.
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Wow, surprised z3r0s turned down Lester for Senzel, given where his team is and that ace is his biggest hole. Lester is a machine.

 

Well I wouldn't have done it straight up anyway, but I too was surprised, considering he has Seager already. A chance to steal an ace from your biggest division rival for a prospect you don't need, that's something I wouldn't pass up.

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