TheHurl Site Manager Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Anybody pm TCA? His window expires at 11:15. I texted him this morning and his answer at 11:07 was "soon-ish"
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Top Offer: Top 5 prospect+ top 25 prospect There are probably only 3-5 teams that have two assets like this and would be interested. My first guess was z3r0s but he said he was out. BTS going half-measures with his rebuild? Dinger flipping prospects already? Possibly TCA if we think Dansby + 2nd piece (Martes?) fits the description. Edited February 17, 2017 by Laika
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Odds of me moving anything of substance for a pitcher when Matt Duffy, Luis Valbuena, and Cesar Hernandez will be starters for me couldn't get much closer to 0.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 I don't even like Quintana. Someone else can pay elite prospects for his 4 xFIP.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 I love Devers. Torres I'd maybe flip but not right away. Need a SsOTF.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 s***, well who else is it then? Specifically I'm wondering because I believe I was the previous high offer. Let's just air this all out as a fully disclosed public auction And then we shame the lead offer into pulling it back And then I get Quintana and his consistent production, low 3's ERA
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Real names or it didn't happen
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) 4 Alex Reyes STL SP (SpeedyGose) 7 Dansby Swanson ATL SS (TCA) 9 Victor Robles WAS OF (TRM) 11 Eloy Jimenez CHC OF (KingKat) 13 Nick Senzel CIN 3B (z3r0s) 14 Lucas Giolito CHW SP (z3r0s) Modified List removing Bellinger (jays_fever owns him), Moncado, Benintendi, and mine and Dinger's prospects. TRM doesn't have a 2nd top-25 prospect, so he's out. Edited February 17, 2017 by BTS
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Call me crazy, but I think we can eliminate Bellinger too. I'm assuming jays_fever owns him?
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Alex Reyes might make sense as the top 5 guy
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 Real names or it didn't happen Kopech, Stewart and 39!
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Kopech, Stewart and 39! Not you, ding dong, the lead offer.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 Not you, ding dong, the lead offer. Your comment was very misleading!
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Alex Reyes might make sense as the top 5 guy I'm calling Reyes + Brinson or Giolito + Senzel. But if z3r0s wouldn't move Senzel alone for Lester, it's probably not him.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 So it's probably Reyes+Brinson or Dansby+Martes Although, TJS takes Reyes well out of the top 5 prospects IMO. But Brinson is better than top 25. And Dansby isn't a top 5 fantasy prospect IMO and Martes isn't top 25. WHO KNOWS.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 I'm calling Reyes + Brinson or Giolito + Senzel. But if z3r0s wouldn't move Senzel alone for Lester, it's probably not him. z3r0s said he couldn't match top offer. Unless you think z3r0s is a liar?
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 z3r0s said he couldn't match top offer. Unless you think z3r0s is a liar? smokescreen?
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 smokescreen? Spreadsheet ninja? z3r0s? I guess anything is possible.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 It would make sense for it to be zeros but that would be an overpay imo
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 At least 4 posters over the last page are being insincere.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 There are probably only 3-5 teams that have two assets like this and would be interested. My first guess was z3r0s but he said he was out. BTS going half-measures with his rebuild? Dinger flipping prospects already? Possibly TCA if we think Dansby + 2nd piece (Martes?) fits the description. I assumed z3r0s too. I'm bothered that you didn't include me. I had the message all written up before deciding against.
BTS Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 If you own Reyes you're 100% still calling him a top 5 prospect but realistically where does he fall if this news breaks a month earlier? Probably still 10-15?
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 If you own Reyes you're 100% still calling him a top 5 prospect but realistically where does he fall if this news breaks a month earlier? IMO every healthy #1 upside arm leapfrogs him, which means he slots in probably @ 21 behind Anderson Espinoza for me. I think you can argue for him even being worse I think in the most optimistic ranking you put him after Glasnow and Giolito, so 15th overall. You're talking comparable ceilings but Glasnow and Giolito's warts aren't as big as fresh TJS.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 25-35 range. I probably wouldn't have put him Top 5 anyway due to pitcher risk and command.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 25-35 range. I probably wouldn't have put him Top 5 anyway due to pitcher risk and command. I think when you're striking out guys at that rate, the command issues worry you less. Just look at Lance McCullers, who coincidentally is also another guy not far from TJS.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 If you own Reyes you're 100% still calling him a top 5 prospect but realistically where does he fall if this news breaks a month earlier? I got Jose Fernandez when it was announced he needed TJS. Sometimes it is the only way for us also rans to get a top end pitcher. But unlike JoFer I suppose we can't treat Reyes as a top end pitcher.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Worst trade I ever made, thanks for bringing it up.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 GD your PMS are full but yeah lets do that Justin Turner deal we talked about.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 If I'm floating around .500 at the all-star break, there will be a Sale auction, and it will be spectacular. Fake news.
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