A Very Darrelly Dynasty League

[Boxcar]

Thx for answering

[Dr. Dinger]

I really don't understand how what Cyborg is saying doesn't seem plausible to you. Is it because you've gone full Gibbers and refuse to believe a young stud might not be a hall of fame level superstar?

 

Huh? The only thing we've disagreed on is the term "monster" and which Seager has a higher ceiling. I don't agree with Cyborg that Kyle Seager moving away from Safeco would significantly raise his wRC+, that's the whole point of the metric. In any case, he won't be moving soon, and I do not concur that his current level of fantasy production constitutes a monster.

[KingKat]

Smoak is a terrible example. Those were just the low and high ends of his normal career variance and they also come with platoon sample sizes. He's a career 96 wRC+, right in the middle of those two bookends.

 

Rekt?

[Dr. Dinger]

I also don't agree that Kyle Seager is, quote, "young."

[Cyborg]

Underated: Extreme flyball at Safeco, AT&T etc.

Extreme groundball at Coors, Miller etc

 

Overrated: Extreme groundball at Safeco, AT&T etc

Extreme flyball at Coors, Miller etc

[Dr. Dinger]

Rekt?

 

I wouldn't go that far, but it was a very silly example. I mean Smoak had a 112 wRC+ in 2013 playing in Seattle. The fact that he had a s***** year in 2014 and then rebounded to about career norms in Toronto doesn't prove anything about Safeco.

 

Also, Nelson Cruz.

[Cyborg]

Corey is the better long term asset because SS, age, and ceiling. But Kyle is better now and will probably be better if Corey moves off SS.

[Dr. Dinger]

Corey is the better long term asset because SS, age, and ceiling. But Kyle is better now and will probably be better if Corey moves off SS.

 

I agree with the bolded part, if by "now" you mean 2016 only. I don't agree that he'll be a better asset by the time Corey moves off SS, since Kyle will be in decline by then. I also maintain that Corey will be the better hitter regardless of position.

[Boxcar]

Huh? The only thing we've disagreed on is the term "monster" and which Seager has a higher ceiling. I don't agree with Cyborg that Kyle Seager moving away from Safeco would significantly raise his wRC+, that's the whole point of the metric. In any case, he won't be moving soon, and I do not concur that his current level of fantasy production constitutes a monster.

 

You just listed two things you disagree on, and didn't really answer. My last comment was in reference to you saying multiple .900 OPS seasons from Corey Seager is a likely outcome. Obviously you have your convictions and don't really care to let facts get in the way.

 

You know that Pablo Sandoval's wRC+ projection jumped by like 15 when he signed with Boston, right? His hitting profile fit Boston much better.

[tafkasg]

I feel like z3r0s is loving this debate.

[Cyborg]

I wouldn't go that far, but it was a very silly example. I mean Smoak had a 112 wRC+ in 2013 playing in Seattle. The fact that he had a s***** year in 2014 and then rebounded to about career norms in Toronto doesn't prove anything about Safeco.

 

Also, Nelson Cruz.

 

Much much better periphs in 2013. They stayed almost the same in 2015 from 2014, actually got worse.

[KingKat]

I feel like z3r0s is loving this debate.

 

Who owns Corey?

[tafkasg]

Who owns Corey?

 

Freaking havok, his stable of young studs is alarming.

[Dr. Dinger]

You just listed two things you disagree on, and didn't really answer. My last comment was in reference to you saying multiple .900 OPS seasons from Corey Seager is a likely outcome. Obviously you have your convictions and don't really care to let facts get in the way.

 

You know that Pablo Sandoval's wRC+ projection jumped by like 15 when he signed with Boston, right? His hitting profile fit Boston much better.

 

Sorry, which part of the future did you want me to unveil for you? It's hard to keep track with your awful quoting disability.

[KingKat]

Freaking havok, his stable of young studs is alarming.

 

Yeah I just went over all the farms recently and remember thinking to myself what a stable though I forgot the specifics.

[Dr. Dinger]

Obviously you have your convictions and don't really care to let facts get in the way.

 

Facts according to Boxy:

 

- moving away from Safeco will increase your wRC+ (supported at length with mathematical findings)

- Kyle Seager will absolutely be a better hitter than his younger brother (traveled to future and back just to make sure)

[GeorgiaPeach]

I really don't understand how what Cyborg is saying doesn't seem plausible to you. Is it because you've gone full Gibbers and refuse to believe a young stud might not be a hall of fame level superstar?

 

Is that how I operate?

[Dr. Dinger]

Is that how I operate?

 

You don't need to take any s*** off somebody whose career DDL W% is 100 points lower than your own.

[Boxcar]

Facts according to Boxy:

 

- moving away from Safeco will increase your wRC+ (supported at length with mathematical findings)

- Kyle Seager will absolutely be a better hitter than his younger brother (traveled to future and back just to make sure)

 

Enjoy all those guaranteed .900 OPS seasons from your hall of fame ss

[Boxcar]

You don't need to take any s*** off somebody whose career DDL W% is 100 points lower than your own.

 

Oh cool, now I'm not allowed to have an opinion when the ******** is leaking from your eyes. I'll just shut up now.

[Dr. Dinger]

Enjoy all those guaranteed .900 OPS seasons from your hall of fame ss

 

I'll add reading comprehension to your list of disabilities.

[tafkasg]

Boxy you're too aggressive my good buddy, aren't we all just here to rock?

[Dr. Dinger]

Oh cool, now I'm not allowed to have an opinion when the ******** is leaking from your eyes. I'll just shut up now.

 

You are allowed to have opinions. What's really annoying is when you piggyback on other people's opinions and then declare them fact with absolutely no supporting evidence. Glad you're shutting up now.

[Dr. Dinger]

Boxy you're too aggressive my good buddy, aren't we all just here to rock?

 

He's been lashing out a lot since you left, he needs a father figure in his life goddammit!

[Cyborg]

.900 OPS? .350/.550

Thats pretty much unattainable for him.

[BTS]

People are really catching feelings ITT.

[Dr. Dinger]

.900 OPS? .350/.550

Thats pretty much unattainable for him.

 

So you're already capping him at a .350 OBP? Makes sense considering he just had 12.4% BB rate as a 21 year old rookie.

 

No, more like .375/.525, and again, I said several -- ie peak -- seasons. I didn't say he's going to carry a line like that every season.

[Sammy225]

People are really catching feelings ITT.

 

Waiver Drafts do that to people

[Boxcar]

Boxy you're too aggressive my good buddy, aren't we all just here to rock?

 

Dinger's really poorly supported arguments that are based on nothing more than homerism and his fee-fees have been getting to me. Like seriously, in what world can you strongly believe in Seager having multiple .900 OPS seasons? I don't even believe that for Correa.

 

But I digress. Shouldn't even be saying what I just said because of my DDL win %. I also miss your searing wit and it's making me bitter.

[Dr. Dinger]

People are really catching feelings ITT.

 

Cybot is just a Kyle Seager owner who wants to slobber on his underappreciated knob a bit, I get it. This will be hilarious to look back on in about 15 months though when Corey Seager is a megastar and Kyle is still putting along with his annual .330/.450.