A Very Darrelly Dynasty League

[Dr. Dinger]

Meh, if Giolito doesn't become even a 4.18 FIP pitcher, I'll be very surprised.

[Laika]

Which trade was worse?

 

James Shields for Yordano Ventura and Lucas Giolito (2013)

 

or

 

Evan Longoria for Noah Syndergaard and Tyler Glasnow (2015)

 

In context, #2. When you traded Gio he was still a long way off, not nearly the asset he is now. But I still expect Syndergaard to blow out his arm and Longo could/should bounce back.

[TheHurl]

In context, #2. When you traded Gio he was still a long way off, not nearly the asset he is now. But I still expect Glasnow to blow out his arm and Longo could/should bounce back.

 

ftfy

[z3r0s]

no way Hurl! Glasnow is gold!

[Boxcar]

Meh, if Giolito doesn't become even a 4.18 FIP pitcher, I'll be very surprised.

 

Nice cherry pick

[Dr. Dinger]

Nice cherry pick

 

What am I cherrypicking, exactly? Shields is a ~2 WAR player this year, not setting the bar very high for Gio.

[Boxcar]

What am I cherrypicking, exactly? Shields is a ~2 WAR player this year, not setting the bar very high for Gio.

 

Oh, idk...his FIP during his worst HR/FB rate of his entire career which is totally unsustainable. Don't mention his very good swstr or decent xFIP/SIERA.

[Dr. Dinger]

I really don't care what numbers you use, Giolito will be much better than whatever Shields is this year.

[TheHurl]

Oh, idk...his FIP during his worst HR/FB rate of his entire career which is totally unsustainable. Don't mention his very good swstr or decent xFIP/SIERA.

 

...and the beginning of the declining velocity

[Dr. Dinger]

...and the beginning of the declining velocity

 

That 1.37 HR/9 is totally unsustainable! Even though he posted rates of 1.30, 1.17, 1.19, 1.50 in previous years and lost 1.2 MPH off his heater this season. I still like Shields and I think he's a fine pitcher, but he's by no means great this year, whereas Giolito has the tools to be a generational pitcher.

[Boxcar]

I really don't care what numbers you use, Giolito will be much better than whatever Shields is this year.

 

Cool, just like Dylan Bundy and Archie Bradley.

[Boxcar]

That 1.37 HR/9 is totally unsustainable! Even though he posted rates of 1.30, 1.17, 1.19, 1.50 in previous years and lost 1.2 MPH off his heater this season. I still like Shields and I think he's a fine pitcher, but he's by no means great this year, whereas Giolito has the tools to be a generational pitcher.

 

Lmfao

[Boxcar]

...and the beginning of the declining velocity

 

And somehow still missing bats

[Dr. Dinger]

Cool, just like Dylan Bundy and Tyler Kolek.

 

Lol Tyler Kolek was never in the same tier as Bundy and Giolito, now you're just reaching. Bundy got decimated by injuries, it happens.

[Dr. Dinger]

Lmfao

 

kkkkkk?

[TheHurl]

That 1.37 HR/9 is totally unsustainable! Even though he posted rates of 1.30, 1.17, 1.19, 1.50 in previous years and lost 1.2 MPH off his heater this season. I still like Shields and I think he's a fine pitcher, but he's by no means great this year, whereas Giolito has the tools to be a generational pitcher.

 

I really expect Shields to become Mark Buehrle somehow. The guy was shut down 2 weeks early in 2007 and hasn't missed a start since. I can see him still throwing 200 innings when he's throwing 88 MPH in 2 years.

[Dr. Dinger]

I really expect Shields to become Mark Buehrle somehow. The guy was shut down 2 weeks early in 2007 and hasn't missed a start since. I can see him still throwing 200 innings when he's throwing 88 MPH in 2 years.

 

I agree, I think he'll age pretty decently. I just think Gio is going to be a lot better than what he is now, obviously.

[Laika]

Wow, Joey Votto's numbers have really exploded. Could be a career year.

 

It's funny how much attention Miggy gets as the league's best hitter when Votto has a better career wRC+.

[BTS]

Man, what happened to Evan Longoria? He's basically replacement level now.

 

Longoria isn't interesting at all in a 20-team league anymore. He's a lower tier starter at this point. He's Chase Headley.

[Dr. Dinger]

Votto is indeed studly, and that's even more amplified in this OBP format. He could very well carry you to a championship.

[BTS]

Wow, Mark Trumbo has been the 242nd most valuable player in standard yahoo leagues!

[Dr. Dinger]

Longoria isn't interesting at all in a 20-team league anymore. He's a lower tier starter at this point. He's Chase Headley.

 

I was reading somewhere on FG recently (maybe a chat) about how we underestimate the % of players that peak around 26-27 and start declining there rather than at 30, like we typically expect.

[Dr. Dinger]

Wow, Mark Trumbo has been the 242nd most valuable player in standard yahoo league!

 

Evan Gattis #176 NIKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Laika]

The 3B crop turned over so quickly. Gone are the days of Miggy, Longo, Beltre, Sandoval, Aramis, Zimmerman, and Wright. Here is the era of Donaldson, Machado, Bryant, Frazier, Arenado, Seager, and Carp.

[BTS]

Evan Gattis #176 NIKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

Dammit.

[KingKat]

The 3B crop turned over so quickly. Gone are the days of Miggy, Longo, Beltre, Sandoval, Aramis, Zimmerman, and Wright. Here is the era of Donaldson, Machado, Bryant, Frazier, Arenado, Seager, and Carp.

 

Sano?

[Laika]

yeah him too. also Turner.

[Dr. Dinger]

The 3B crop turned over so quickly. Gone are the days of Miggy, Longo, Beltre, Sandoval, Aramis, Zimmerman, and Wright. Here is the era of Donaldson, Machado, Bryant, Frazier, Arenado, Seager, and Carp.

 

So many studly 3Bs, oy. I'd take Bryant for my 5 year plan.

[Abomination]

I was reading somewhere on FG recently (maybe a chat) about how we underestimate the % of players that peak around 26-27 and start declining there rather than at 30, like we typically expect.

 

Peak in real life, or peak in fantasy where we don't take defense into account?

[Dr. Dinger]

Blake Swihart: maybe not garbage after all!