NHL Thread

[Spanky99]

I've got a question for you all. After Brady won his 7th Super Bowl he's getting a lot of greatest of all time in any sport talk. Seems like he and Jordan are the two names that come up most. I don't know s*** about hockey but Wayne Gretzky was every bit as good at hockey as Jordan was at basketball or as Brady is at football right?

 

Yes, 99 is a God!

[Orgfiller]

I've got a question for you all. After Brady won his 7th Super Bowl he's getting a lot of greatest of all time in any sport talk. Seems like he and Jordan are the two names that come up most. I don't know s*** about hockey but Wayne Gretzky was every bit as good at hockey as Jordan was at basketball or as Brady is at football right?

 

Better, I think. Gretzky has some absurd records in the NHL that even Jordan or Brady don't have. It's like if Wilt Chamberlain played in the 80s and 90s in terms of records I'm pretty sure.

[Jimcanuck]

Thank you both for the answer to my question and the random factoid about NFL MVP awards.

 

Brady playing on good teams that win championships doesn't mean he's the best of all time in any sport, lol. If this is the criteria, Mike Trout sucks.

[Abomination]

Nothing like hockey games being cancelled because of winter weather

[Brownie19]

Brady playing on good teams that win championships doesn't mean he's the best of all time in any sport, lol. If this is the criteria, Mike Trout sucks.

 

You say that like he was some pedestrian QB who just played on great teams.

 

Brady holds many quarterback records, including combined passing yards (91,653), regular season touchdown passes (581) and career touchdowns (664), in addition to the most Pro Bowl selections (14, tied with 4 others) and the second-most regular season passing yards (79,204).

 

Also - quarterback is the single most influential position for winning in any team sport...and it's not even remotely close. I'm not saying it's the be all, end all - but it matters more than winning in other sports does. That also makes it difficult to compare across other sports.

[Krylian]

lmao Leaves

 

It's too bad you're not a Sens fan. You could've really enjoyed that.

[Brownie19]

It's too bad you're not a Sens fan. You could've really enjoyed that.

 

I'm sure all 4 of them did.

[BTS]

It's too bad you're not a Sens fan. You could've really enjoyed that.

 

As a hockey fan with a strong rooting interest in anyone playing the Leafs, I really enjoy every game in which the Leafs snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Doesn't matter if they're choking away a 5-1 lead to a league doormat or a 4-1 3rd period game 7 lead.

[Krylian]

As a hockey fan with a strong rooting interest in anyone playing the Leafs, I really enjoy every game in which the Leafs snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Doesn't matter if they're choking away a 5-1 lead to a league doormat or a 4-1 3rd period game 7 lead.

 

I like how you always focus on what the Leafs are doing. Keeping doing that. We appreciate the attention.

[BTS]

I like how you always focus on what the Leafs are doing. Keeping doing that. We appreciate the attention.

 

Your replies to me suggest that you actually find the attention pretty unwelcome.

[Krylian]

Your replies to me suggest that you actually find the attention pretty unwelcome.

 

I find it amusing.

[Jimcanuck]

You say that like he was some pedestrian QB who just played on great teams.

 

Brady holds many quarterback records, including combined passing yards (91,653), regular season touchdown passes (581) and career touchdowns (664), in addition to the most Pro Bowl selections (14, tied with 4 others) and the second-most regular season passing yards (79,204).

 

Also - quarterback is the single most influential position for winning in any team sport...and it's not even remotely close. I'm not saying it's the be all, end all - but it matters more than winning in other sports does. That also makes it difficult to compare across other sports.

 

Sure, of course, but has Brady done enough to hold the title of the greatest of all time in all sports? Because that is the debate.

 

I don't think the differentiation between Brady and other NFL quarterbacks is sufficiently large. To be anointed the greatest of all time any sport there needs to be a greater separation.

 

But then my brother is a huge Brady fan so I am biased against him.

[Brownie19]

Sure, of course, but has Brady done enough to hold the title of the greatest of all time in all sports? Because that is the debate.

 

I don't think the differentiation between Brady and other NFL quarterbacks is sufficiently large. To be anointed the greatest of all time any sport there needs to be a greater separation.

 

But then my brother is a huge Brady fan so I am biased against him.

 

Wayne has Orr and Lemieux

Micheal has LeBron

Baseball doesn't really have a clear GOAT

Tiger has Jack

 

I don't think any sport has 1 single person who's miles ahead of his competition.

[Laika]

I've got a question for you all. After Brady won his 7th Super Bowl he's getting a lot of greatest of all time in any sport talk. Seems like he and Jordan are the two names that come up most. I don't know s*** about hockey but Wayne Gretzky was every bit as good at hockey as Jordan was at basketball or as Brady is at football right?

 

Wayne Gretzky vs his sport is clearly better than Jordan or Brady vs their sport. I mean people validly debate Lebron vs Jordan right now.

 

Also, Serena Williams...

[Laika]

Wayne has Orr and Lemieux

 

They are not even close, though. Wayne Gretzky has some just f***ing silly records like:

 

If you ignore every goal he ever scored he's still a slam dunk hall of famer

If you ignore every goal he ever scored he's still #1 in career points all time

If you ignore all of his goals he still lead the league in scoring on assists alone multiple times

 

Gretzky has more apples than Lemieux has points, right?

[The Cats Ass]

They are not even close, though. Wayne Gretzky has some just f***ing silly records like:

 

If you ignore every goal he ever scored he's still a slam dunk hall of famer

If you ignore every goal he ever scored he's still #1 in career points all time

If you ignore all of his goals he still lead the league in scoring on assists alone multiple times

 

Gretzky has more apples than Lemieux has points, right?

 

But who would win in a fight, Gretzky or Orr?

[Jimcanuck]

But who would win in a fight, Gretzky or Orr?

 

Orr would demolish Gretzky..... he was no slouch with the fists.

[wilko]

But who would win in a fight, Gretzky or Orr?

 

McSorly.

[Spanky99]

Nothing like hockey games being cancelled because of winter weather

 

Did that happen again? Ughh...

[Spanky99]

Nothing like hockey games being cancelled because of winter weather

 

I was unaware that Dallas can get hit with weather that severe, wow.

[Spanky99]

Man, Penguins look bad.

[Brownie19]

They are not even close, though. Wayne Gretzky has some just f***ing silly records like:

 

If you ignore every goal he ever scored he's still a slam dunk hall of famer

If you ignore every goal he ever scored he's still #1 in career points all time

If you ignore all of his goals he still lead the league in scoring on assists alone multiple times

 

Gretzky has more apples than Lemieux has points, right?

 

The only argument is Lemieux had to battle and beat cancer in the middle of his career and (separately) took 3 years off before returning in the middle of the season to score 35 goals with 76 points in just 43 games.

 

Points per game for their career, Wayne was 1.92 and Mario was 1.88. IMO, Mario was as good as Wayne - he just couldn't stay healthy. Wayne was incredible - and incredibly healthy throughout his career.

 

Orr averaged 122 points and a +80 rating (holy f***!) from age 21 through 26 before blowing out his knee. Again, with healthy, who knows where his stats end up.

[Spanky99]

Nooooo Quick, f*** off.

[Spanky99]

Shades of Monday? Nah... Sens suxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Spanky99]

For the dummies like me, this is how the playoff format works...

 

Playoff Format

For the 2020-21 season, the NHL was realigned into four divisions: MassMutual East, Discover Central, Honda West and Scotia North, with a 56-game regular season featuring only intradivisional play. The top four teams in each division will qualify for the Stanley Cup Playoffs, which will follow the traditional best-of-seven, four-round format. The first two rounds will feature intradivisional play (#1 vs. #4; #2 vs. #3). The four teams that advance to the Semifinal Round would be seeded by their regular season points total, with the No. 1 seed playing the No. 4 seed in one series and the No. 2 and No. 3 seeds meeting in the other.

 

Glad they got it right.

[Krylian]

For the dummies like me, this is how the playoff format works...

 

Playoff Format

For the 2020-21 season, the NHL was realigned into four divisions: MassMutual East, Discover Central, Honda West and Scotia North, with a 56-game regular season featuring only intradivisional play. The top four teams in each division will qualify for the Stanley Cup Playoffs, which will follow the traditional best-of-seven, four-round format. The first two rounds will feature intradivisional play (#1 vs. #4; #2 vs. #3). The four teams that advance to the Semifinal Round would be seeded by their regular season points total, with the No. 1 seed playing the No. 4 seed in one series and the No. 2 and No. 3 seeds meeting in the other.

 

Glad they got it right.

 

So exactly how it used to be in the 80s

[Spanky99]

So exactly how it used to be in the 80s

 

Yes, pretty much, glad they decided to re-seed.

[BTS]

It’s pretty hilarious that Chris Driedger is better than Sergei Bobrovsky. What a pickle.

[Spanky99]

It’s pretty hilarious that Chris Driedger is better than Sergei Bobrovsky. What a pickle.

 

It's only been 20 games for Driedger, but he has been the better goalie by a wide margin. Sens should've kept him.

[Boxcar]

It's only been 20 games for Driedger, but he has been the better goalie by a wide margin. Sens should've kept him.

 

Aren't goalies basically the running backs of hockey?