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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
jmomcc replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The dodgers to some degree sign guys they expect to get injured. We don't so we might end up in a spot where we have 9 starters and 4 relievers. -
If they waive him, and another team doesn't pick him up, then they are on hook for his salary. This to me is obviously not a 'good' thing. They signed someone who is a net negative essentially. However, because we are a big market team it doesn't really affect us.
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On reddit people are saying there are rumours in korea that we are signing riley thompson. Starter depth or bullpen depth i'd guess. I kind of doubt it would be a major league deal.
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He has an option so leave him as depth in triple a i think
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121 is 21% above 100. That's quite a wide range for 'roughly' 100. I also think that's probably just from experience. There are only so many guys who could be 50FV or above at any one time. Edit: its been as high as 137 and as low as 112 but none of their beginning of the year rankings has been within 10 of 100 recently.
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Yea their little blurbs for each grade are identical to fangraphs essentially. I need to wrap my head around how adjusted grades work, but they seem interesting.
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I don't usually look at their top 100 but at the 'board'. You can see on there for the beginning of the year report last year, they went to 121 propects 50fv or better. By the update it was 95, presumably because of promotions. 2024 was similar. So, they don't seem married to a 100 as a cutoff.
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All star is just shorthand. Every team gets one. It translates to something like 2 war projection for average and 3 war for plus. Obviously its not foolproof. Some 45fv guys end up being stars. Its POSSIBLE that 60fv on BA means a 2 war projection. Seems unlikely. I also really doubt it is arbitrary at all. In fact i think if you asked eric longenhagen and someone at BA to describe a 60fv guy, the answer would be extremely similar. These are based on scouting scales that have existed for ever.
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50 means average everyday player pretty much everywhere. That's the only way i've heard anyone use it. 45 is fringe average, 50 is average. 55 above average, 60 is plus. I'd be surprised if BA is different. I listen to their pods and they talk in those terms.
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That does give info that you can't get at a glance in fam graphs usually so its useful. But kind of breaks the fangraphs prospect model value if you use it for that
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He doesn't give out 6 60fv per team because 60fv is an all star. That would be ludicrous. I'm assuming BA maybe has its' grades set at the 90% percentile outcome or something and fangraphs has it at some lower percentile. I'm not a subscriber.
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Yea because it changes the surplus value. Money you get later is worth less than money you get now.
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Baseball america must have another ranking system than fangraphs. There are 7 total in all baseball on fangraphs.
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I don't think they are factoring in that a third of his contract is deferred. It seems light anyway. Anyway, that's still at least two top 100 prospects, probably three.
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I mean three isn't really enough unless one of them is yesavage, Something like Nimmala, King, Stanifer, Tieddeman maybe if they think they are all 50fv. Maybe something like nimmala, parker, King, stanifer
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Marte would be an extremely expensive in prospects if his projection is real. His contract is cheap and a ton of it is deferred. Back of the envelope it looks like 80-100m surplus value. To give an idea of what that means for prospects, in 2018 dollars (when fangraphs wrote about this) a 50fv position player was worth 28m and a 50fv pitching prospect 21m. Let's increase those by 20% for inflation to 34m and 25m. So you'd need three 50fv hitters or 4 50fv pitchers to make a fair deal.
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A Starting Pitching Option for the Blue Jays… in 2027
jmomcc replied to Jim Scott's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I like this. Seems like a low risk, medium reward type of situation. edit: i guess the 40 man situation is a problem. He needs to go on there initially when he signs. But i don't know if that would be an issue. -
I think take it slow with Cook because he profiles to have power but his current swing can't get to that. Take some time and see if you can tweak it and he could be a 5 tool guy.
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The idea wasn't to move him to cf next season. It was to try him there in spring, and if he profiles as above average or even average, give him some reps during the season .. and then replace varsho if there aren't other options the year after. CFs are quite hard to get. Most players defense degrades by free agency.
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Oh, thanks then!
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I don't know what that means. It could be old person lingo or young person lingo. I'm somewhere in between. So, i guess... thanks or how dare you. Choose the appropriate one.
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I would say that any mlb shortstop (in a literal sense) with top end sprint speed and range is capable of playing cf if they have good instincts for the position. Now,.. obviously they might have already found out on a backfield that the latter is not true, and he's no bueno there. CF is down the spectrum. Some really good short stops wouldn't be fast enough but clement is. Otherwise its a lesser defensive position.
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Correct, he did. Possibly yes. Correct, not a video game. Correct, clement is valuable. You can stop conversations with people by not replying to them.
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Varsho was a catcher who became a centrefielder. You know that right? We just played in a world series against a team who played mookie betts at short.
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My answer is to genuinely try that, and if that doesn't work you need to use prospects to get a centre fielder. I would not extend Varsho.
