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Its not really bitching lol. I’m just kinda shocked. I still question if he’s even the best Second Baseman on this team let alone one of the best in the AL lol.

I agree with the notion that its the big picture. However I was just focusing on the draft and how poorly this team has drafted. Especially at the top end has to be noted. It’s also pretty wild that we already traded our last 2 First Round picks. Little harmless look back.

They really let the fan vote determine the replacement lol. No shot he was the next best option. I like Espinal but All-Star game….

I would give up Bo with zero hesitation. Espinal could play SS until we found a more long term solution.

Jays should be all over the Soto sweepstakes involve Vlad if you have to. That bat way to special.

For that list yes. Obviously there’s been some later round gems. But even if you look at the current MLB Roster. Its only Manoah, Mayza, Romano, Jansen, Bichette, and Biggio that we’re drafted and developed by the Jays. The rest either came from outside the organization or were International signings. The next wave of prospects can impact that soon as well though.

Way to many teams passed on Trout but if you want to go down that road this is how depressing the Blue Jays success in the First Round of the MLB draft has been since the year 2000. 2000: Dustin McGowan - Often injured but spent a few MLB seasons as a middle reliever. Probably will go down as one of the biggest what ifs in franchise history. I still remember the no hitter he brought into the 9th vs Colorado as a young Starter. 2001: Gabe Gross - 656 Career Games with a .715 OPS. Bust. 2002: Russ Adams - 286 Career Games with a .685 OPS. Probably one of the worst Defensive Shortstops to ever play full time at one point. Bust 2003: Aaron Hill - 1559 Career Games with .740 OPS. Had some monster seasons with the bat and even made the AL All-Star team in 2009. 2004: David Purcey - 111 Career Games with a 1.54 WHIP. Never made it as a starter. Had extreme command issues in his chances as a reliever. Bust through and through. Zach Jackson - 22 Career Games with a 1.57 WHIP. Bust. 2005: Ricky Romero - 129 Career Games with a 1.40 WHIP. Career was weird it started terribly in the minors. He ended up finding himself where he was actually pretty successful for 2 seasons despite command issues. But after that he was complete garbage and career ended quickly. He made an All-Star team but considering he was taken above Tulo and to this day still the highest pitcher ever drafted by the Franchise. You have to consider him a bust. 2006: Travis Snider - 630 Career Games with a .710 OPS. Which started with a bang when he first debuted. He’s probably regarded as the biggest position player bust in Franchise History. 2007: Kevin Aherns - Complete Bust never played in the Majors J.P. Arenciba - 476 career games with .670 OPS. Outside of showing power probably one of the worst defensive Catchers to ever play everyday. He had no ability to take a walk and his personality made you want to punch a wall. But he was very attractive and that might be what he’s known best for ultimately. Brett Cecil - 443 Career Games with 1.36 WHIP. Failed starter who had some very good seasons as a reliever and actually made an All-Star named. Known for his hammer curve which was either one of the most deadly pitches in Baseball or the most inconsistent. He even won 15 games a Starter one year which hammers the point home how meaningless that stat is. 2008: David Cooper - 72 Career Games with a .751 OPS. Ultimately an injury is what ended his career early. Not going to knock him much for that reason. 2009: Chad Jenkins - 46 Career Games with a 1.25 WHIP - Failed starter who actually had moderate success as a middle reliever but never pitched a full season. 2010: Deck McGuire - 27 Career Games with 1.47 WHIP. Failed Starter who had a couple cups of coffee in the Majors. But ultimately a bust. Aaron Sanchez - 166 Career Games with 1.38 WHIP. First player on this list that’s still active. Although actively terrible. The main that coined the phrase “Competitive Walk” and once referred to himself as “The Sanchize”. His career starred out a lot like Ricky Romeros. And he ended up having an dominant All-Star season where he actually received CY Young votes. But ultimately control and injuries derailed his career. He had 7 starts with the Nationals this year that went absolutely terrible. I believe he’s now in the Twins organization. Noah Syndergaard 135 Career Games with a 1.16 WHIP. Regarded mostly as the one that got away and nicknamed Thor. The only thing that ever limited Syndegaard has been injuries. He was dominant early in his career. But has only made 16 starts in the last 3 years. Currently active with the Angels. He has mixed results at best. He’s certainly not the pitcher he was early in his career but is a competent mid to back end rotation option. I could talk about Asher Wojciechowski as well but I’m tired and I don’t want to. I still think it’s stupid the compensation guys are still considered first round picks but oh well. 2011: Tyler Beede - Didn’t sign… pitches in the big leagues but he sucks. Jacob Anderson - Never played a single game in the majors Joe Musgrove - 156 Career Games with a 1.16 WHIP - He was traded very young into his career but has actually turned into one of the best Starters in the NL. He was apart of that 10 player swap with the Astros 10 years ago that got us JA Happ who had a decent career himself. Just retired actually! In hindsight we can’t be that upset with this. They sent a bunch of s*** to Houston in that deal. And Musgrove emerged many years later. We have no idea if he develops into the pitcher he is now if he stays with the Jays. Could also talk about Dwight Smith Jr. He had a couple cups of Coffee with the Jays. Mostly played with the Orioles where he was very much not notable. I think he’s kicking around somewhere? 2012: D.J. Davis - Complete bust. Drafted 17th Overall and never got past A Ball. Marcus Stroman - 189 Career Games with a 1.26 WHIP. Don’t need to go into much detail everyone knows Stroman. Currently active ofcourse mid rotation Starter. Has actually kind of sucked with the Cubs so far. Matt Smoral, Tyler Gonzalez, and Mitch Nay - None of these guys ever got close and none are active 2013: Phil Bickford - Never signed and is currently a middle reliever for the Dodgers. 2014: Jeff Hoffman - 132 Career Games with a 1.58 WHIP. Regarded mostly as the top prospect traded for Tulo. He’s been mostly awful in his career but is having moderate success as a middle reliever for the Reds this season. Max Pentecost - Never came close and is now retired. Injuries were definitely a big role in this but you have to deem him a bust for sure. 2015: Jon Harris - Complete Bust. He made it to Buffalo but never debuted. I believe he’s pitching in Indy Ball currently. 2016: T.J. Zeuch - 13 Career Games with a 1.55 WHIP. Just another bust. Probably with the least exciting arsenal of a First Round pick ever. Why was he drafted so high you might ask. Guess they really liked his size. 2017: Logan Warmoth - Currently in Buffalo but he is far cry from the promising young Shortstop he was out of North Carolina. His bat just never translated to professional ball and clearly his Defense didn’t either because he’s currently playing mostly corner OF with a sub .700 OPS. He might debut at some point but more than likely in another organization. Another draft bust. Nate Pearson - I don’t even think he’s considered a prospect anymore. But if he ever finds a way to stay healthy he could be nasty. 2018: Jordan Groshans - Still regarded as one of our top prospects. But it’s pretty safe to say his AAA season has been extremely unimpressive and his Power Tool has yet to translate to the professional level. He will definitely debut at some point or be traded but its not looking as intriguing as it did a couple of years ago. 2019: Alek Manonah - Beast. Nothing more needs to be said 2020: Austin Martin - Traded for Jose Beriors. His minor league career has been very disappointing. But man is he good at getting hit with pitches. 2021: Gunnar Hoglund - Traded for Matt Chapman. Has still never thrown a pitch in Professional Baseball as he was injured when he was drafted. And as you can see the Blue Jays draft history is pretty f***ing depressing Jesus. I regret doing that a little bit. But hey Manoah! Luckily there has been some later round picks i recent memory that look very promising.

I’m actually very annoyed he’s in the All-Star game. He might be the least deserving Blue Jays All-Star ever. Atleast in the last 15 years. You would have to almost go back to the early 2000’s to find someone least deserving. He should give up his starting spot to Miggy just to give him a proper send off. Otherwise he should hit 9th in that AL Lineup.

Or a Lefty that mashes Lefty to really f*** with people.

Winning is always fun. But he pitched back to back days. Perfect time to bring up a fresh arms! If Jays win these next 2 they will be sitting in a decent spot all things considered. Hopefully some serious trade talks ramp up over the break.

I’m sure this is definitely an option especially with the bullpen day tomorrow. Hopefully Berrios will be very good Sunday though.

Struggling to see what they see in Banda. If they want to fix him. Try to get him to AAA. This isn’t the place. If you lose him on waivers oh well.

Agreed. Bench him tomorrow to send a message. Lets see him dance in the dugout after that.

He’s feeling great tonight. Wanted the 8th. I reward that energy. He most certainly earned to go as long as he possibly can. Plus you have a Bullpen day tomorrow. And now you’re committing to using atleast 2 relievers.

Bad is a strech but you would like to see him get that ball up. The ground is nobody’s friend especially when you have no ability to run.

Manoah definitely had another inning in him. Kind of a bitch move by John Schneider not letting him atleast start the 8th.

Ground balls are never ideal true.

Now that’s our actual best hitter. Atta boi Bowling Ball!

Vladdy should take the All-Star game off. Chance to take his head out of his ass.

I feel they should get someone who can actually see in that position before it costs us in an important situation. Walter is not cutting it. He can retire with his lovely wife Margret. These games keep them both up to late anyway.

You have to like the way Witt plays the game. He just needs a proper haircut. You want some flow fine but gotta do it right.

Who is our video review guy. He’s f***ing horrendous at his job.

Chapman what are you doing bro. Unload that ball that’s what you do. That is your strength. Hes safe all day. Stupid challenge.

Hopefully a taste of things to come. Back to back games with a Homerun. He needs to have much more consistent at-bats in the Second Half. But if he hits 25+ homeruns this season and plays 3B the way he’s capable of most of us will be happy with that.

Wow both Chapman and the Jays needed that big hit.