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Wow, give them an extra out on top of all this?

Day off tomorrow, our best should be in there

Hawkins? Is Gibby on crack? Really puzzled by this one

This ump again is f***ing horrible

That really sucked, you have to get at least 1 run out of that. Still a 2 run lead though with time running out on em

Good for them, doesn't make them right. So it's not quite as "simple as that" Organizations make wrong and questionable calls on their players and prospects. I was commenting on it is all.

Surprised he didn't throw Cola out for diving there. Probably a 4 game suspension coming from MLB

Yeah, thought I hear somewhere revere had 184 hits last year? I find that hard to imagine, watching his approach. Must've had 130 bunt singles or something. I like Pompey as a better option as well but it's hard to throw him in this fire right now. On the other hand, it could be invaluable experience for him. I'm on the side of letting him play but it's a tough one

Good call on the game today man, respect.

Tataunka. No fastball anymore. Sit on that change and pound his ass into oblivion

Jeez, I hit the nail right on thread didn't I? Is tooting my own horn illegal here? Ha, hopefully Estrada holds up your end of the deal on this one Spanky!

But Smoak SUXXXX! Mods. He's so uselsess! MOds. Why does Gibby have him in there? He should be fired! MODs!!

Even on the rare occasion that Zaun makes sense, I still really want to feed him a dog s*** sandwhich

With all that said, I understand his high walk rate isn't a recipe for success. And I don't think he should be a starter on this team right now. But I look at it quite simply as this. Hutch's lack of fastball command leads to him getting lit up and lit up with not just "bloop" hits, but like a f***ing firecracker. Sanchez's lack of command leads to a lot of walks thus far, but also loads of weak contact to get him out of bad situations he creates for himself. And he does that with a fastball that moves dramatically creating weak contact even when opposing hitters know it's coming. There simply are only a handful of players that can do this and sanchez is one of them. Even with two strikes, he throws that fastball over 65% of the time and as evidenced in his last start, contact was weak to non existent.

I gotta weigh in with a few points. First, you can never "negate" movement and velocity by how many men you walk. It might drive you f***ing crazy as it does me, but that statement just isn't true. Second, it's simply not luck when you have a guy that walks the bases loaded and repeatedly gets out of it with his penchant for drawing groundballs off of bats. It's actually quite the opposite. As a hitter, I always knew that I was going to get a lot of fastballs when there were guys on in front of me. I know in the majors, great pitchers with confidence in all of their pitches will pitch backwards, but much more often than not, a pitcher will throw more fastballs with guys on or the bases loaded. This is precisely what Sanchez did on several occasions and guys still couldn't hit his sinker with any solid contact. When you have MLB hitters, knowing what's coming, and they still can't hit it. Yeeah, you're lucky once, twice, maybe three times, but when it becomes repeated? It has absolutely nothing to do with "luck" Why do you think guys still can't hit him when he comes out of the pen? His sample size isn't huge, but his numbers are top three in all of baseball in just about every category. If this kid could start with the mindset he has out of the pen? Leads me to believe there is some sort of block there on him mentally where he tries to do too much, because he is a completely different pitcher coming out of the pen. Third, his K rate has nothing to do with what kind of pitcher he is. That number will rise dramatically when he gains confidence in his curve and hopefully develops another pitch. Anybody who's ever played the game will tell you he'd rather have a guy on the mound who pitches to contact. It both keeps the defense alert and keeps the pitch count down. I'd rather a guy throw a few pitches per AB and induce ground balls then a guy who strikes out 10 per game averaging 4.5 pitches or more to get the strikeout. Halladay was a classic example of a guy who pitched to contact. When he got into his prime, he struck out his share with the development of his curve, and so will Sanchez. Aaron's curve is miles better than any of Hutch's secondary pitches and his fastball has more sink on it than Hutch's change. It's not luck that Hutch gets hit harder than Sanchez and it's not luck that Sanchez doesn't get hit as hard as Hutch does in the reverse. Sanchez draws much weaker contact for the sole reason that he has miles and miles more movement on his pitches and nothing "negates" that. Have Hutch throw nothing but fastballs and he gets f***ing creamed. Sanchez gets away with it because when his sinker is on, it's coming in at 96-99 MPH with more movement than most pitchers breaking balls. I don't get all the bitching and hate for Sanchez. I understand his walk rate is maddening and makes you want to shake him but he's one of ours and as a Blue Jays fan, we should be rooting and pulling for him instead of carrying on about how much he sucks. He's still 4-5 years out of his prime and I'm betting that he gets it. It's simply a mental adjustment for his and the proof is his dominance coming out of the pen late in games. Him and Stroman are good friends and hopefully Marcus and the pitching coaches help him get where he needs to be. When he does, he's going to be a beast for years to come.

Yup, Davis has a lot of holes in his swing. Jones is a great player though, those meat head fans don't deserve him

True enough man, thanks for the respectful debate!!

Wards was good, but not on the same level. Ward was more of a swing and a miss power pitcher with a heavy sinker. Aaron's pitches look like wiffa(sp?) balls. I have some of his outings on my PVR, and I've shown people his 98mph fastball, drop from the letters coming out of his hand, to below the knees at contact. Ward didn't have the same velocity of the same sink, or delivery for that matter. Duane's acted more like a splitter, started just above the knees and below the knees at the last minute. Both devastating, but movement and amount of movement completely different in my opinion.

The same reason they allowed Sanchez to be suspended for three games after our guys were thrown at repeatedly, at their heads nonetheless. Our guy hits one of theirs in the leg? Three games justified!

I disagree. I know you like him as well. But with command, he is definitely ace material. I think once he learns it will be fun to see the competitiveness between him and Stroman. I love Marcus and I know a lot of peeps here do as well so please don't give me a beat down for saying this, but with equal command, I think Sanchez has better stuff. Their curveballs are both very good, but I like Aaron sinker more than I do Marcus's cutter. He has slightly better movement and better velocity. Not saying Aaron is anywhere near Stro's level right now, I'm just hoping the friendship and competitiveness between them means that Marcus helps Aaron with his mechanics a bit

For walking out of the dugout to ask the ump why he wasn't asking for appeals on check swings at third. Thing is Gibby didn't get a single word out and got tossed. f***ign embarrassing for these umpires and their bias against the Jays

Dude, I honestly think that his two and 4 seam fastballs are enough. A change would be great, but he has a very good curve. He just needs a consistent release point and he can be amongst the best in the league. But it's a tall order considering his BB/9 rate throughout his career at every level thus far. His sinker with that velocity is amongst the best I've ever seen, almost as good comparatively to Blyleven's curveball being a beast amongst curves in the games history.

Ha, 30 bucks five times for 150 bucks. He was askin' if we could get 1 million peeops in at 30 bucks a pop, we could offer Price a year to start.

LOL. Is it possible to set up one of those donation accounts to see how much we could raise? Especially now.....to all the people in T.O?

f*** yeah, I swear on my left nut I'll pay for five. Scouts honor