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just hit a god danged fly ball!

great defense tampa!!!

Nice fukking hook. He really need to use that pitch more to keep people off his fastball. Once Stro teaches him the cutter, he's going to be a god danged beast

He's amped up a bit, what do you expect. If he doesn't get the ball down soon then I'd be worried. Lucky that hanging curve didn't leave the yard though.

LOL, yeah, he ,issed every spot. Get a job as a scout please?

from 1 inning? really? Cos 97, 97 97 goodnight looked pretty good to me. So did coming back against Longoria to get a weak groundout as well

and he provided more last night. His out pitch was there when he needed it and he kept his team in the lead until his bullpen rode it the rest of the way to victory. How soon people forget his performance at Yankee stadium last year when the Jays got that sweep that buried the yanks. His numbers may not be CY Young calibre anymore, but they're more than good enough to service a slot in this rotation

Finally, some common sense. I'd much rather have a guy go 8 innings and throw 90 pitches and not strike out ANYONE, than have a guy who throws 50 pitches after 3 and is out of the game after 5. Halladay was a master at that with his two seamer, with 10 pitch after 10 pitch inning allowing him to go deep into games. It allowed his defense to stay on it's toes and saved the bullpen a ton of innings come the end of the year. Same for Marcus. Who cares if he's amongst the K leaders? I'd rather him throw a shitload of easy innings while inducing weak contact.

He got 12 strikeouts with a LOT of hanging sliders that 2 months from now would have earned him a much earlier exit with 8-10 runs allowed. NOTHING about Archers performance was more dominant. Going into the 9th, if taken out like he should been, he'd have averaged 11.5 pitches per inning with a WHIP barely over 0.50? THAT'S DOMINANT. He kept the rays consistently off balance and they made no hard contact off him whatsoever for 8 innings. Stroman dominated, not archer. He got 12 k's off of guys being rusty and whiffing on sliders that were basically meatballs, left way above the belt on multiple occasions. The only decent k's he had were the few fastballs he kept down when he froze his hitter. Stroman basically breezed through that lineup and threw very few stressful pitches. He was the beast yesterday IMO and I'll take a guy going 8 innings allowing 1 run rather than a guy who struggled all game long and couldn't get to the sixth. Take away the 9th and Stromans start was everything you could ask for and more. Being his first start of the season, he should have been sat down to rest anyhow and enjoy the utter f***ing gem he just pitched

Cardinal rule...never make the first or third out at third base. All the dinosaurs know that

Wow, George Bell....Jose Canseco anyone?lol

I've never witnessed a pitcher hang so many and get away wit it. I know we're just out of spring training but this guy has put op some serious meatballs up there and a LOT of them

Deliver a bomb!!

Atta boy!!!! Someone who can hit a slider!!!!!

gotta get his run back

Not even close to hitting a hanging slider, wow.

Tulo and cola missing hangers

sitting off the bag declaring himself safe, guess that's what Tabby means by playing the game the right way? lol..kidding, I know he's a great little player but it still made me laugh

make him throw 50 pitches through 2

I say Bello needs to go, I mean, his OPS was almost .900 and that just isn't going to cut it around here:p

Excited to see what this kid has got over the long haul. Just hope they're able to stretch him out properly and that when he returns to the pen, we still have healthy options to replace him. At the very least, hopefully they'll have lots of bait come deadline time to fill any holes. Lord knows SP is at a premium come deadline time. This team sets up well.

I estimate 90 wins in a dogfight for this division. If they don't repeat as division champs, they're a wild card team for sure.

So apparently pillar and goins HAVE done something to write home about but Sanchez hasn't? Have you not seen Aaron's splits in the bullpen over the past two seasons? His numbers are borderline spectacular and speak volumes about his value to this team as a reliever at the very least. I mean, look at these numbers man and talk some more about......pffffft, never mind. Just borderline ridiculous. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=sanchaa01&year=&t=p And ERA has some relevance when you combine it with a WHIP of 1.5 and watched how wickedly hard he got hit a LOT of the time. I mean an ERA over 5.5 with a WHIP of 1.5? That's the kind of success I want to see out of one of my starters!!!! His lack of fastball command helped those numbers get to where they were and a lack of any movement whatsoever led it getting beat like a red headed step child. Sanchez showed a wicked lack of control but was able to keep his numbers respectable because of both velocity and movement and the PROOF of that is in his bullpen numbers. I preached about goins and his stellar defense for ages and just about everyone hee hawed about what garbage he was. When all we NEEDED him for was his D. We didn;t depend on him for and ounce of offense no matter how painful it was to watch him hit. Fact was he turned double plays like a beast and saved the team runs with his Defense. Stopped momentum with his defense. My point is that if we have something in Sanchez, which I'm positive we do, let him learn on the job at this level. He's had the MLB experience, lets see what he can do with it. Jesus, I remember when Stroman was on his way and people were oh so positive that he was to small and that he had some sort of attitude. Put your cakeholes to rest and watch him either prove you wrong or fall on his face. I think there is zero chance he fails

Hutch has had MINIMAL success at the MLB level and one might argue that without the offensive support behind him last year, his W-L numbers are completely reversed to go along with the rest of his horrid numbers. Aside from a high walk rate, Sanchez actually had minimal success in the same role as well. But I gotta say that Sanchez has pitched his way into a job and its his to lose. If he keeps his walk rate down, all this BS about missing bats and all that is completely meaningless as long as he continues to induce weak contact on the ground. It's when he tries to do too much that he gets himself into trouble. His natural ability is more than enough to carry him as a number 2 or 3 guy, depending on what kind of makeup he has mentally. A lot of that that is yet to be seen and that is the plain and simple truth. So people judging that a 22 year old is this or that has no f***ing idea what they are talking about. He could be a complete bust or he could end up being a solid no 2 guy. Could end up being a valuable back end of the bullpen guy as he's proven to be over the past 2 seasons. But my take is that he has above average MLB stuff. Needs to develop his secondary pitches and above all else, we need to find out where his composure level on that mound is at over a generous period of time. Then make some sort of solid judgement on what he actually is. Until then, all this hate on a 22 year old kid with a 96 plus fastball with movement is just worthless. His ceiling is obviously pretty high, so why not find out how high that ceiling goes?

What sanchez needs is time to develop and the desire to do so. Some friendly competition would benefit him greatly too and I think he can get that from Stroman too. He needs a slider in the worst way, his curveball just isn't a pitch you want to throw with the rest of his stuff. But his fastball pitch doesn't have to be a wipeout pitch in order for his arm to be considered big. If they know its coming and they're still drilling it into the ground, it's just as useful of a pitch. I'd rather see him rack up groundball outs over K's because it will allow him to get deeper into games. Again, as long as he can keep his walk rate down, he will settle in fine as a no.2 starter. If he doesn't do that, the decision needs to be made that he will either pitch out of the pen or go down to AAA and work on a secondary pitch as well as his command. But all this bagging on a 22 year old kid is ridiculous.