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Cleveland Indians Payroll standing League-wide: 1998: 6th ($59,543,165) 1999: 4th ($73,278,458) 2000 : 8th ($75,880,871) **Larry Dolan/Paul Dolan purchase the team 2001: 5th ($91,974,979) **Shapiro hired as GM 2002: 9th ($78,909,448) 2003: 26th ($48,584,834) 2004: 27th ($34,569,300) 2005: 26th ($41,830,400) **Shapiro named Executive of the Year (90+ win season) 2006: 25th ($56,031,500) 2007: 23rd ($61,673,267) **Shapiro named Executive of the Year (90+ win season, AL Central Champs) 2008: 16th ($78,970,066) 2009: 15th ($81,625,567) 2010: 24th ($61,203,967) 2011: 26th ($49,188,867) **Shapiro promoted to Team President 2012: 21st ($78,430,300) 2013: 21st ($77,772,800) 2014: 26th ($82,534,800) 2015: 26th ($86,091,175)
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Its just average fans reacting to a team that isn't winning. He didn't accomplish the feat of sustained winning with a bottom 5 payroll, so he's a failure and needs to be replaced. Fans like that don't realize that the grass isn't always greener on the other side, and that what they are expecting is an extremely tall feat. You saw the same s*** here when this team wasn't winning: "fire everybody", complete with a dead atmosphere of support. Then the tables turn and now the stadium is sold out every night with supposed die hard Blue Jays fans. What exactly do you expect from your average sports fan?
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Cherington was essentially going to be demoted as Dombrowski was granted full control over baseball operations. I don't expect this situation to be similar because Shapiro doesn't appear to running into this thing with the expectation that he's both GM and President. By all accounts Antonetti ultimately had final say in day to day baseball operations in Cleveland, so I'd expect the Shapiro/Anthopolous relationship would be more in line with Anthopolous still holding "GM" power. There were reports that Rogers wasn't willing to cave and hand over full baseball control to Dombrowski whereas Boston bit the bullet and did exactly that.
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"Shapiro, who served as GM, farm director and assistant farm director in Cleveland before becoming the team's president this decade, according to sources intends to keep Alex Anthopoulos as general manager"
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Yeah, his credentials aren't huge, but to be fair the big-name media is basically hinting at the same thing, except they aren't fully committed in their reporting yet. This guy even went on to name who would be taking over the Presidential role for the Indians, so either he's going all-in with the ********/guesses, or he actually knows something.
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This Cleveland guy (unknown reliability) says its a done deal:
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Wow Detroit pitching coach so good. Boyd a stud. Such improvement.
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Both of his secondary pitches are just floating down the middle of the plate the majority of the time. He's way too hittable. If a hitter ever guessed right on his curveball it would go a LONG way out; that thing is just spinning over the heart of the plate.
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He's hanging those changeups way too high in the zone. Just asking to get ripped out of the park.
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The decision was not AA's. Rogers invested a lot of money on Ricciardi's last ditch spending spree. When those moves flopped and the team failed, they fired Ricciardi and brought in a young upstart with zero GM experience. You think they hired him and told him "sure, keep piling salary onto this roster"? It was obvious that they wanted a rebuild, otherwise they would have hired a more established veteran GM if their plan was to keep progressing with what Ricciardi left. Beeston's 5-year FA stipulation assured that he couldn't go crazy in FA even if he wanted to add to an ageing Halladay, and Ricciardi left a s***-heap minor league system which meant that he couldn't trade for MLB help either.
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Are you kidding me? How many of those 5 years were spent clearly re-tooling the minor league system which ultimately BUILT this currently dominant team? When he took over, his first orders of business were trading away the team's best player (Halladay) and dumping the crippling albatross salary of Wells, the team's ~2nd or ~3rd best player. Does that sound like a team "pushing for the playoffs"? Of course not; it was a re-tooling job. You can't use rebuilding years against him and argue that he didn't make the playoffs in those seasons, that is absurd. His playoff "window" was last season and this season. Last year the team flopped and he rightfully entered this season on the hot-seat. This season, the results speak for themselves. These last two years are what you judge his "playoff expectation" on, not the first few seasons when he was tasked with getting rid of the best players on the team.
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Why? He's done all he can to build a roster that at this point is a shoe-in for the playoffs and a strong contender to compete for it all. If by some chance this team somehow completely falls apart and misses the playoffs, it will be for reasons that are out of the GM's control.
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Sick bra, brah.
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I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. Greene is 20 years old; we traded Syndergaard as he was just coming off his age 19 season. The point? Its very likely that we would have handled Syndergaard the exact same way considering that he was in Lansing as a 19 year old. Sanchez is a totally different case as he quite obviously never showed the control to be rushed along anyway.
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GT (3/3): Athletics @ Blue Jays [Chavez v Buehrle] Aug 13
metafour replied to TRM's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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Even with the write-off 2015 and majority of 2014, Cliff Lee has still produced 19 fWAR and 21.2 bWAR for the Phillies since 2011. If you account ~$6 million per win (Lewie Pollis actually had it at ~$7 mill per win in 2013), that pegs his value at $114-$127.2 million. Yes that contract was a major anchor this season; but throughout the life of it it really wasn't as bad as you paint it. During the years that the Phillies were realistically trying to contend (their "window"), Lee was actually providing surplus value for them over his $21-25 million per year salary. Their roster was never built to contend in ~2015 anyway.
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Yup. Verlander is really an extreme example as pitchers of his caliber rarely just fall apart at age 30 like he did. Price has lots of characteristics which suggest that he should age well: low reliance on breaking balls, universally praised mechanics, and a good thin body that isn't likely to balloon and become a problem. I think that you can realistically expect him to be a strong to elite performer until age ~34/35, if that is the case then you're looking at 2 years that may be write-offs, and its not really out of line to suggest that he may still be useful during those years either. Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine were both fastball/changeup pitchers that were pitching at a high level all the way up to their mid to late 30's, for example.
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You don't, but if you're arguing over top-end free agents who will all cost you a lot of money, its not hard to conclude that the one that gives your overall rotation a different look makes the most sense.
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This team has zero LHP starters once Buehrle's tenure comes to an inevitable close. Not even in the forseeable minors after trading away Norris, Boyd, Labourt. For that reason alone Price makes more sense than say Cueto or Grienke.
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Hamels' cutter is also plus. It is however interesting to see him throwing harder at 31/32 than he ever did all throughout his 20's.
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No, they're not. They're both hard-throwing lefties...thats about it. Sabathia is fastball/slider whereas Price is fastball/changeup. Big, big difference.
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I think that you're making quite a few assumptions, particularly on Price losing significant velocity after only 2-3 seasons. One could argue that since Price has pretty much been a four-seam/sinker/changeup pitcher his entire career, his arm should maintain itself longer than most as it has not been used to snap off violent breaking balls (ie: sliders). Roughly 25% of Sabathia's pitches thrown since PitchFX started tracking in 2007 have been sliders. On the contrary, less than 3% of Price's pitches thrown during that same time frame have been sliders. He more or less never throws the pitch, therefore trying to use Sabathia (a heavy slider pitcher) as proof that Price will fall apart at the same rate seems quite silly. A more realistic comparison would be Cole Hamels; another fastball/changeup pitcher who at nearly 32 is not only maintaining velocity, he is actually throwing harder NOW than he was 5-6 years ago.