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The dozens of people who are employed by this organization to see these prospects on a daily basis didn't feel that the two we lost were significant enough assets to protect. Whether or not they were right or wrong is to be determined, but don't be one of those morons who thinks he knows more about obscure prospects in the organization (that you've likely never seen for any significant portion of time) than the team itself. Newsflash: you don't, and neither does MLB.com, BA, or John Sickels. I can guarantee you that they didn't make a mistake and "forget" to protect Romano or Bergen; they didn't make the necessary moves beforehand because they didn't feel it was worthwhile to place them on the 40-man roster.

The inverted W isn't even a thing anymore.

Looks like we hired Carson Cistulli away from Fangraphs. Supposedly into a "newly created" role in the Pro Scouting department.

Who's the c*nt that was coming through with the condescending questions? "You were in the minor leagues for 18 years, why did it take so long?" "You're going to be losing a lot of games here, how do you feel about that?" Typical "empowered female in sports" attempt at projecting power.

The hockey forums are that way ------------->

Your definition of "superstar" is quite interesting considering that.... Encarnacion: 3.3 WAR total over 2 seasons since leaving. Bautista: 1 WAR on three different teams in one season since leaving. Donaldson: Missed a full season of games over the past two seasons, unlikely to play at a "superstar" level again given his age and mounting injuries. Osuna: Shipped out on entirely non-baseball related terms. The only guy on your list who is actually likely to continue playing at an elite level, but he's still a f***ing reliever you dolt. A closer can not and is not a "superstar" player LOL.

Nola was a late round guy and was a complete shot in the dark anyway, that one doesn't really count. We drafted his brother too and tried to swing a package deal, it didn't work. Singer was a fail as that pick turned into Woodman, and Singer ended up being a 1st round guy that could have been in the rotation next season.

No, we pick 11th because Atlanta gets a comp pick for not signing Carter Stewart.

They also had Khalil Mack going to Green Bay, so this isn't as foolproof as its made out to be. The Gibbons dismissal was leaked months ago. Within that leak, it was also reported that they preferred a younger guy who could speak Spanish. As far as I'm aware, Wedge fits neither of those criteria. Shapiro also fired Wedge in their first stint together in Cleveland, so I'm really not sure why its some foregone conclusion that this is "their guy" that they've been carrying around for 2-3 years now to eventually push into the managerial spot.

Diaz's 103 wRC+, if qualified, would rank 12th in MLB among shortstops...just behind Trea Turner and his superstarish 104 wRC+. Even in his one completely fluke season, Goins was just an 85 wRC+ hitter.

You say this as if its a "surprise" or something. Diaz is obviously better than Travis at this point and can play SS, so he's definitely on the team over him. Drury is a guy they like a lot and he will absolutely get the chance to prove himself over a failed experiment from the last regime.

He was not deemed "innocent", the case was simply dropped because the accuser conveniently doesn't want to testify all of a sudden. His involvement with the Sinaloa cartel had been quietly talked about long before this incident even happened, so take a wager and guess why his accuser all of a sudden has no interest in leaving Mexico, it should be pretty obvious if you have any idea what goes on in Mexico. Osuna got off, but that does not make him an innocent good ol' boy in the least. The team was aware of his "offseason activities" like a year ago and had apparently already been planning an eventual departure.

Yeah, he went on a week long slump, so obviously your comparison is spot on. No MLB player ever fits in slumps.

Gonna be getting some camp reports boys. The Orelvis Martinez hype train begins (or derails...)

Yes, his Japanese/South American genetics obviously suggest that he'll be 6'5 by 21.

The fact that he's young means less than it does for most players because he isn't expected to grow much and his frame is already developed. If you want to believe that an 18 year old will grow 4 inches overnight, go ahead, but what you see is more than likely what he is.

I followed his games this season. He is not throwing "high 90's" or sitting mid 90's LOL. Its more sitting low 90's and touching mid 90's. Temper expectations. He is good and polished, he isn't a superstar. He is also able to bully rookie-ball hitters right now with his advanced feel for pitching and that becomes much harder the higher you climb.

The most recent claim is that his bat speed has disappeared. Is this related to his hamate injury? You better hope so, because if he's showing average or worse bat speed then he's pretty much done being a "top prospect". The plummet in rankings reflects that; no-one really cares that his numbers weren't good.

He is more often 90-93 in games than he is "mid 90's and topping 97/98". The secondary stuff is good, but again, his height will make most of his stuff play down some just like it does with Stroman. If you take into account his playoff start where he got bombed, he gave up 7 HR's in 51 IP (1.23 per 9 innings) this season which shows that his lack of height is likely already giving him leverage problems. Pardinho is more of a good-stuff/high-floor type than a "superstar". A mid rotation type if everything clicks, whereas Franco is an Acuna/Vlad/Soto type player. You need to temper expectations here, his stuff isn't even at Stroman-level yet and Stroman is hardly "elite".

Franco and Pardinho are only similar in age and relative polish. Franco is getting hyped because he has superstar tools, whereas Pardinho only has good but not elite stuff on top of an obviously below-average frame. Its an upside thing.

This. Krylian is just using age-driven logic which doesn't even apply to pitchers as much as it does with hitters. Merryweather has MLB-quality stuff and he's already knocking on the door, thus he is obviously more valuable than a comp pick. The small likelihood of finding a superstar prospect with a 2nd round comp pick is there, but at that point you also have to consider that there is also a small chance that Merryweather finds one small improvement and ascends to a higher level himself which is entirely possible with any pitcher who throws mid-90's and flashes above-average secondary pitches while showing the ability to throw strikes. Look at someone like Kloffenstein (who we should rightfully be hopeful about) who we got in the 3rd but paid 1st round money to. He was 90-93 in his limited outings in the GCL while flashing "potential" secondary pitches. Yes he is just 18, but it isn't even a given that Kloffenstein even becomes Merryweather. Merryweather certainly already throws harder, and while Kloffenstein could grow, it isn't abnormal at all for HS pitchers to hit peak velocity at 18/19. He could also jump into the high 90's and become a superstar, or flame out in A-ball like a ton of other HS pitchers do. If you look at it objectively instead of focusing on "hype", then Merryweather is obviously above a 2nd-round comp pick. There is also a reason why Cleveland put him onto the 40-man roster after posting a 5-whatever ERA as a 25 year old last year: there is obviously something there, and if you read actual scouting reports its pretty easy to see what it is.

Yeah, all of our problems would be solved if only we had 36 year old 0.8 WAR Edwin Encarnacion on the team. f*** YOU Shatkins! Go back to Cleveland you LOSERS we only like proven winners here.

#BrainFog. Your case appears to be terminal.