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Also if Philip Clarke continues to rake, his stock could rise quickly

Yep I agree. Saw Diaz there, oops. Wincky is a borderline stud now with velocity uptick 2-4 mph, he’s hitting as high as 97-98 and sitting 93-96 regularly. His changeup is much improved and also has one of the better sliders in our whole system. No reason not to include him in top 30. I’d have him in the 15-20 range. The Jays know he’s a solid prospect, he’ll get some love eventually. Otto Lopez, I am a fan. He’s still very raw (esp defensively and base running decisions) but the talent is very obvious. Give him time to polish. But he’s what you want when you sign a bunch of guys in IFA, you hope they’re athletic and can really hit.

Interesting list. My top 7 would be similar, but Orelvis Martinez and Griffin Conine would be slightly higher for me. Guess my chirping on BA for Kirk has paid off lol. Manoah, Kirk, and Moreno lined up behind Pardinho confirms our previous theory that they should be in cusp-t100 discussions. SRF really has no business in the top 10 imo. Patrick Murphy also a tad underrated, same for Maximo Castillo. Kloff, Williams, and Brown are long term projects. Wouldn’t put them so high until I see results, not just based on draft hype. Off the top of my head, guys that should be a top 30 name: Josh Winckowski, Otto Lopez, maybe Cullen Large. Riley Adams should also be a tick higher imo. Rikelvin De Castro not sure yet. If you add two more Top 100 prospects from a Stroman & Giles trade, imo this is still a very strong farm system.

Nolan Ryan or bust

Dream scenario. It’s hard to see the Twins pony up that much in one trade though. It would likely take both Stro and Giles for them to let go of Kirilloff, and even then I’m not so sure they’d agree. I can see them trading for Giles only. I’d be happy with Ken Giles for Trevor Larnarch + Jhoan Duran. Really young pitcher like Balazovic that haven’t reached Double-A is inherently risky. Their value can fall off a cliff really quickly if their stuff isn’t absolutely lights-out. If Balazovic is the centrepiece, there better be multiple arms returning in that package. (Remember Matt Boyd was a throw-in for the David Price deal, you never know) Not sure I want pitching to be the centrepiece without seeing them succeed in double-A. I feel more confident in a prospect like Deivi Garcia for this reason, if we trade Stro to NY.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/josh-norris-mlb-prospects-chat-71619/

Last 30 days - Top 20 BJs prospects OPS: 1. OF Billy McKinney 1.111 2. CF Cal Stevenson .979 3. C Ryan Sloniger .970 4. C Philip Clarke .961 5. 1B Yorman Rodriguez .955 6. RF Demi Orimoloye .911 7. SS Bo Bichette .897 8. 1B PK Morris .894 9. C Gabriel Moreno .883 10. RF Alberto Rodriguez .876 11. OF Jhon Solarte .856 12. 3B Angel Camacho .848 13. RF Griffin Conine .842 14. SS Kevin Smith .841 15. 1B/OF Spencer Horwitz .826 16. C Alejandro Kirk .825 17. SS Orelvis Martinez .818 18. C Riley Adams .817 19. 2B Miguel Hiraldo .793 20. 3B Cullen Large .782

Bit of a long shot, but there’s some resemblance to Trevor Story. Had spots of putting up crazy A/A+ numbers, struggled a tad in AA, then had a great AA season. Was decent in AAA, been terrific in MLB. Bichette might have a more impressive overall minor league career. Higher K% guy, not really an OBP type. Good bat to ball ability. Grown into his power, plays middle infield and can steal bases. Story is a better defender but Bichette is still young.

The top 30 team lists update during/after trade deadline deals. BA is most worth it the couple months leading up to the draft. There’s some content for baseball junkies throughout the year but it’s not for everybody. They follow a lot of college ball.

He was a power hitter (sorta) bat first middle-infield guy in college, hasn’t shown it at all since Dunedin. Some guys just don’t translate well to pro-ball.

Yeah pretty much. He could still turn things around but it’s a tall order. He’s been a bit better recently (in AA) but my biggest concern is he doesn’t hit enough power to be an everyday second baseman. The strikeout numbers and zero homers in AA is very discouraging, even for guys high on Warmoth.

Ross Atkins has the worst luck with depreciating assets during mid-season. Yeah. Red Sox are 8.5 GB of NYY and 1 GB of the second WC. This could help a tad bit, I think this might shift Eovaldi into the bullpen. Either way, unless a huge trade is coming and their guys start playing better I don’t see another World Series type run this year. $225M payroll for a wildcard spot should be pretty disappointing for Boston fans.

Summer Grichuk

LINE has the best emojis. WeChat has some nice features but WhatsApp I think is more used internationally. If you’re in Asia though probably WeChat is more popular. Long gone are the days of ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, and even Skype. Discord is pretty decent but it’s more popular in NA and it's not really a text messaging App.

lol Sogard almost ran back to first base

Good to be back

Double points for hitting the jumbotron

So Borucki sitting 92-93 with a solid 83-85 changeup and had a slider yesterday. Still a bit rusty but flashed good command at times. Changeup is major league. Defense behind him was a circus, but scorer was generous for the home team. When things went downhill he gave up b2b dingers. I think there’s a slight uptick in his velo, but not as obvious as spring training.

Err... sometimes. Would you rather have Nate Pearson or Sean Reid-Foley + Hector Perez + David Paulino? What about Bo Bichette or Kevin Smith + Riley Adams + Juan De Paula? Not the perfect examples, but baseball is very imbalanced. Sometimes one player can far outperform trajections of 3 players combined.

Thanks guys for the amazing support! Yeah for sure I can talk Bo Bichette all day, everyday. He really looks like a star in the making. We’ll see if he’s getting called up soon.

Forgot to say, this is probably the most fun I’ve had recording an episode so far. This is the 4th (one recording had technical difficulties and never published). We got to cover some prospects I’ve been hoping to talk about for a long time, like Nate Pearson, Eric Pardinho, Orelvis Martinez, Gabriel Moreno, and Griffin Conine. All having great seasons. We were also able to go through most of the interesting names on the prospect wheel game, the only BA top 100 prospects we didn’t cover were Sean Reid-Foley (75 in 2016), Brandon Drury (94 in 2015), Nick Kingham (64 in 2013) and Lourdes Gurriel Jr (73 in 2016). There’s a couple other guys we’re hoping to cover for the next prospect special, hope they stay hot until then. If anyone missed the first prospect special, it can be found here: https://bluejaysaggr.com/go/158623 It’s also on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify and all other places.

I tried going back and reading everything, sometimes it’s pretty impossible to keep up. Unless there’s specific reasons like seeing what people said during the HR derby, wouldn’t really bother going back. I joined a month ago, and J4L19’s soccer bets and Pendleton’s job are probably the most interesting discussion so far. It’s not really a baseball focused discussion group lol

I agree with most of this. I just find it hard believe pitchers spend 90% of their time and hundreds of hours working on those things (non-velocity related pitching skills) if they have zero implications of MLB success. I don’t care about college players, I’m talking about guys we’ve drafted and currently in the system. Of course you need certain amount of FB velo to pitch in the MLB, I’d estimate you need to at least reach low-90s regularly to have a good chance at getting MLB guys out, with or without other peripherals. Guys that throw mid/high 80s generally never get to double-A, and become irrelavant in the grand scheme of things. Their draft rankings often reflect that. Hence why guys like Murray and Allgeyer are picked so low in the draft. Guys drafted that low rarely make it. But when they’re working hard and finding some success in the minors, it’s real bad taste to start rooting against them just because they can’t throw 96. Zach Logue does at least reach 91-94 and he’s a lefty. There’s something more to be desired on the low K/9, but he’s been successful at getting guys out 100.1 IP in Dunedin and 93 IP in NH. His FB velo actually isn’t the problem in this case, it’s more he lacks a true wipeout secondary pitch. I’d like to see him continue developing his changeup and maybe work a cutter to his arsenal. There’s a lot of ways to go about it, but it helps to be left-handed.

I said Twins a month ago, it’s still a good fit both ways. They have the need And the prospects to make the deal. Some other teams that may make some sense if they’re still in the race by July 31: Red Sox, Phillies, Nationals, Rangers, Athletics Maaaybe Yankees, Dodgers, and Braves.. but I don’t think their need is as much as the other teams, so not sure about their willingness to give up prospects for Giles. There’s definitely more teams in play for Giles compared to Stroman.

I like velo too, and wasn’t saying it’s not important. But to completely write off guys like Zach Logue and Nick Allgeyer just because they throw 91-94 is dumb to me. Pitching metrics is so advanced now we need to look beyond FB velocity as the only factor. Command, execution, pitchability, secondaries, location, movement, composure, ability to hold runners, ability to repeat delivery, deception, inducing groundballs & weak contact, generating swinging strikes, not walking people, etc There’s a hundred ways to get a guy out, which is the ultimate goal. My point is that guys with average velo, like Joey Murray, can find success too.