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It's not a lie if they know the truth. The JPR Legacy will never leave this organization.
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The Yankees traded their vets at the deadline and went on a 2nd half run. The Jays held on to theirs and are on the verge of completely collapsing out of a playoff spot by the weekend. What the Jays could have gotten for Edwin, JB, Saunders, etc, at the deadline will haunt us for a while, especially if the Jays miss the playoffs.
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Thank goodness Navarro came back to save Estrada's season. Martin catching him would have been a disaster.
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Can the Jays score again so that Estrada doesn't have to throw a shutout? That's the real question.
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Carrera hits pinch hit home run. Will never see the bench again.
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Francona would be good but I can't see him leaving Cleveland unless he really hates it there. That team is in much better shape long term than the Jays are.
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Jays and O's tied for the WC with 3 teams within 2.5 games (NYY/DET 2 games back and SEA 2.5). Man, I thought the WC was the worst case, but not making it at all is a distinct possibility with the way these guys are playing. On one hand, anything that makes firing Gibbons more likely is fine with me, but damn let's not waste JB and EE's last seasons here (assuming they don't come back).
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And Goins started in a must win game against Boston because of "dem career numbers".
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It's baffling. The front office had the perfect opportunity to get rid of him in the winter. The fans already hated them so how much worse could it have been PR-wise? Gibbons is never going to manage another MLB team again (unless AA finds a GM job somewhere else) so getting rid of him coming of an ALCS appearance may have actually done him a favor. Now he's been exposed as the s***** manager that he is, and the Jays have suffered because of it during their final season with Edwin/Bautista on cheapo contracts. If the Jays happen to fall into a wild card spot now, anything can happen in one game, but this offense is bad. Donaldson has to come back like a mad man to save them, and even that may not be enough with the hole that they've dug.
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Gibbons still has a job because he's easy to scapegoat. That's the only reason I can think of that he's still around. If the Jays tank the rest of the way, Gibbons has no chance of coming back. It sucks that they wasted what could be the Jays last great chance at a WS for a while with that Goober managing.
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Pillar, Carrera, and Goins due up in the 9th. Knowing Gibbons, no one will pinch hit. We got this.
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The Rays will score in 3 minutes now, while the Jays will have 15 minute inning where they score nothing.
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Carrera following by Fatty. Oh joy.
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Hey Gibby, thanks for putting rewarding Carrera for last night ahead of trying to put the best batter in that spot.
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Other teams make scoring runs look easy, while the Jays make it seem like brain surgery.
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Biagini picking the wrong time to give up home runs.
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Why is Travis so bad against LHP this season?
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Ball game.
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Man the Jays offense is straight up ass lately. I miss when it was just inconsistent but still good. Now it's consistently awful.
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A better question is how do you keep this team competitive after 2016? That seems like a tall order given how good Boston projects to be, and the Yankees potentially showing some signs of long term growth already. Jays are old with a farm system that is a few years away from developing big league talent. It's going to be hard. Not impossible, but hard.
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I'd be fine with JB back on a two year deal. Anything more than that and I pass. Will a team give up a pick and give him 3-4 years at $20m per year? Coming off a season where he had two different injuries, can't field/run, and isn't hitting to his standards? That's a tough call.
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Odorizzi usually does well against the Jays so I'm glad they got a win out of this. Hell, any time they beat the Rays is an accomplishment.
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One of the best players in baseball has had a bad week. Panic time.
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General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread
glory replied to G-Snarls's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I can't believe we are only 3 more weeks and less than a handful of starts away from never having to see Dickey start for the Jays again. It's like Christmas. -
You pointed out why Escobar was traded when it had nothing to do with the point being made. That's what an apologist does. If you don't think the franchise is in bad shape, that's fine. I never said it was in bad shape, just stating reality. When you build for 1 or 2 years, that's all you're ever going to get. This is the final year of that window. Shapkins can extend the window by having a great off season but it won't be easy, especially with Boston and New York being so well run. Also, I don't know how I am angry. My post before this one was exactly what I've been saying since the Tulo/Price trades. You can choose to be optimistic and cover your eyes to what usually happens next when teams try to build this way. Luckily, Shapiro was hired when he was.