The past couple of years it feels that way.
ANother thing the NBA does better than MLB. Everyone can't wait until the summer with the NBA since there is the draft, free agency, etc. In baseball, every team is trying to outcheap the other, which means FA's linger for months, and front offices now think the same, so even trading seems like it would be a lot harder. Definitely lacking the excitement of years past.
I wonder how realistic this is for the Jays. They’re willing to go with their young position players who are mostly cheap and Shatkins never spends any money on the bullpen regardless, so seems like whatever money they have to spend would be enough to make a strong offer here. MLBTR projects 6/42. Years are too high but AAV seems reasonable enough. He’d be there for Vlad’s years so if he’s any good it would fit the team’s timeframe.
Of course he will go to the Dodgers, but it’s the boring part of the offseason.
One of the things I distinctly remember about that off season was that the Angels were willing to give up both Ervin Santana and Dan Haren for a sack of s***. They literally just wanted out of their contracts and didn't care about the return. I remember wanting the Jays to go that route (expensive for a year but would eat up innings and stay healthy unlike all their other starters). That was also the same off season that Martin signed a 2/17 deal with the Pirates, which the Jays could have easily beaten.
Point is, there were deals out there. Maybe not as sexy as the Miami/Dickey ones looked at the time, but more sensible and could have used the prospect bullets for later. Not saying it would have been easy or anything, but I don't think that was their only way of building a quality team around Bats/Edwin.
That's the one thing I will give to AA. He takes a lot of chances, where if it works then it's great (JD) but if it doesn't then it's really bad (Tulo, Reyes/Johnson, Dickey, etc). Unfortunately other than Donaldson a lot of his risks were trash here, but hard to screw up what he inherited there, and adding Trout would obviously be a great move.
Yeah I think people are making too big a deal out of this. Maybe the jays lose a player or two. It happens when you have a deep system and can’t protect everyone. The chances of it coming back and hurting the Jays (or any other team) long term is pretty slim. Johan Santana situations are about as unlikely as humanly possible. Needle in a haystack. The Giants never shed a tear for losing Joe Biagini who actually did really well for a playoff team in 2016, and that’s a rare example of a Rule 5 pick actually working out. I think we will survive.
Ah yes, the 2013 Blue Jays. The year a broken down Ricky Romero, Chad Jenkins, Aaron Laffey, Chien-Ming Wang, Ramon Ortiz, Todd Redmond, Sean Nolin, and Esmil Rogers started a combined 51 games.
Yeah seriously, Smoak’s deal is an overpayment given the market for first basemen. Even a trade will yield nothing.
In two years Betts is a free agent. f*** over Boston and get him.
Yeah it's getting to the point where we can actually start writing projected A+/AA/AAA lineups and rotations well in advance because there are so many prospects in the system. Shatkins has barely traded any prospects since they took over and have added a lot of them.
This is the right answer. The left side of the infield by 2020 will be Vlad/Bo. Where Gurriel fits in remains to be seen but he is not the long term answer at short either way. I guess they are willing to try him there in 2019 and see what happens. I’d rather have a real SS out there especially if we are trying to increase the value of our GB starters but maybe Montoyo will shift enough to compensate for it.
With Paulino being so injury prone, Thornton's stuff playing up in shorter outings, etc, the Jays should definitely utilize some creativity to get the most out of their arms. Paulino and Thornton both throwing 120-ish innings each and providing good value would be a damn good scenario. Neither one will be a 200 ip workhorse, and both might be too good to be one inning guys, so play around with it. We are not beating the Yankees/Red Sox any time soon by being conventional.
I think that's my stance on this deal. Don't mind trading Diaz but value wise it looks like the Jays got less than they should have, and are left with some questionable infield options because of it.
Wall is in AA and wasn’t that good there. He seems like a safe guy to not protect. Pitchers that are big league ready (Thornton, Waguespack, etc) seem more likely to be taken. I think they’ll protect Thornton.
What this tells me is Urena is probably going to end up the utility infielder. No spot for him in AAA and now a spot opens up in the majors.
He has to be added on according to Twitter. Can’t imagine they’d risk him going through the Rule 5.
If he doesn’t have to be added on, then that’s one benefit.
He’s coming off a much better season offensively and defensively now than he did a year ago. This move also doesn’t even fix the 40 man roster glut.
Thornton might end up being good but I don’t think their values were anywhere close to each other right now. That might change a year from now of course.
I know nothing about this guy so I won’t say it’s good or bad because I honestly have no idea, but definitely seems light. Diaz has four years of control left and is probably the best SS on the team right now.
I guess Travis, Gurriel, and Drury will be the IF to start the year.