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  1. Teoscar apparently starting in CF tonight. Atkins knows how to tank better than seasoned GM's.
  2. The Jays drafted Nick Neal in the 11th round, who is listed at 6'6/285. More Thickness.
  3. Trading with Brian Cashman worked out about how I expected it to. Trading with the Rays will probably have a similar outcome. No thanks.
  4. Yeah I don’t know how his D is or whether he’s a long term option at 2b. If he’s not then it’s less of an issue.
  5. Is Biggio a 2B long term? If so, then playing him in right to get Sogard in the lineup during a rebuilding season is pretty derpy from a development standpoint. Just play the vertrin in right so that Biggio can develop there (if they see him there going forward).
  6. To be fair, if the Jays traded Stroman today, Manoah would be in the front of our rotation tomorrow.
  7. Definitely sounds like DJ Davis.
  8. I’ve been critical of Atkins lately but I feel very confident that he will be able to build a team bad enough to get a top 3 pick. See, I can be positive!
  9. This isn't AA drafting anymore. If Shatkins picked him, then he's probably already a lock to sign.
  10. Does the first round really need to be this long every year? Damn what a waste of time. Just get on with it. MLB can barely get people to attend their games, you think fans are flocking to MLB Network to watch this s***? The NBA draft can get away with it because the fans will see those players in a few months. Half of the first round in MLB will be lucky to reach the Majors. Be more efficient, Manfred.
  11. Damn. Even the head of scouting can't exaggerate to hype the guy up. Between that and Keith Law liking the pick....I don't know what's worse.
  12. Yeah people who think Shapiro will be allowed to rebuild for much longer are in for a rude awakening. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Rogers wants to win either in 2020 or 2021. This will be the third straight year the team sucks (despite only being the first year they are truly bottoming out), and I can't see Rogers letting this continue to trend downwards any more than it has.
  13. The Jays are definitely going to acquire Josh Naylor now from the Padres. Thiccc is the new untapped market.
  14. Hopefully there’s more footage of Smoltz talking about Manoah’s package.
  15. Agreed. I think Shapiro was a great hire and still is, but either Atkins is really bad (assuming he has full autonomy) or Shapiro has lost a step in a changing economic climate in MLB. Rogers will get tired of poor attendance either by the end of this season or next season, and I think Shapiro signed a five year deal when he took over (which would cover 2016-2020). I would not be shocked if Rogers moves on from Shatkins after 2020, especially if 2020 is a repeat of 2019.
  16. They made no effort to make the 2019 team better, have force fed playing time to never-will-be's, gave a 2 WAR player $50m a year and a half before they had do, and will trade their best pitchers in a market where teams do not trade top prospects anymore. I actually thought 2020 would be better, but I'm honestly scared we will waste at least half of Vlad's service time before it gets better. I know I'll get killed by the Shatkins white knights who will run to their defense, but I was actually a big fan of theirs since 2016 and they've turned me into this. It's their fault. Give me a reason to be optimistic fer god sakes!
  17. Yeah Wall's numbers do look a little like Alford's in AA, and we know what happened when he moved up. If Wall is a LF as mentioned rather than a CF, then that definitely takes away from his appeal. He'll have to take his high AVG/high OBP into every level for him to have a chance.
  18. The best thing about Wall is that his BB/K rate looks great. The Jays have had a very hard time acquiring players who can draw walks at a high level so this is a good development for him. Time to move him up to AAA and see what he has. Still only 23. If his D in CF is even average, he might be something.
  19. Forrest Wall went 3-5 with 3 doubles. He is now hitting .309/.411/.466 in 178 at bats. Drawing walks and not striking out a ton (18% K%). I have no idea what his defence is like, but this team needs OF prospects in the upper minors badly. Promote him (to AAA) and see what he's got. Once they make some trades and call Alford up mid season (it's going to happen), hopefully they move Wall up then. There's a lot of s*** in AAA (Teoscar, McKinney, Brito, Hanson). Can't have any of them block a potentially decent prospect.
  20. Mid tier free agents and trading prospects for starters with 2+ years of control left. Pitching prospects are the scariest assets imaginable. Trade for vets whose arms are more likely to stay attached and hope to build an offence/defence that is full of elite young talent. It won’t be easy but that’s probably the avenue they go.
  21. Well that will change in 2020. This team is looking like a 100 loss team, or damn close to it, and it should get worse when they start trading vetrins. This front office has been pretty damn good with the draft from the looks of it so next year's draft should be fun.
  22. I think I'd prefer (good) hitting prospects in return for Giles+ only because you can't trust SP prospects. The best bet would be to get the absolute best package you can get regardless of position and then trade expendable prospect depth to acquire vet SPs. I think AA had the right idea in one respect which was consolidating prospects to get players of need, but he did it before the team was ready for it, which ended up causing the small contention window. The key here will be to do the same thing but only when the team is filled with what Shatkins perceives to be the next contending core. I just don't trust pitching prospects no matter how good.
  23. The Super 2 deadline is such a farce. I can't believe half the stuff the MLBPA approved in CBA negotiations over the years/decades.
  24. If they trade Stroman, the return better be amazing. I don't care if they trade Giles, who is elite, but RP's are RP's and they are the one commodity on the trade market that will always have value even in a depressed market where teams are reluctant to trade prospects. We should be able to do well in a Giles trade. Playoff teams love to stack up on elite relievers. To me, Stroman is someone you keep long term. He's good, wants to stay here, is embracing the young team of mostly s***** replacement level players (until the real prospects are all up), and is young enough to still be a contributor to any 2020-beyond success. They better be very careful with his situation. At this point they either have to extend him or trade him because they can't afford to be caught with their pants down and sell at 50 cents on the dollar (or 20 cents in JD's case) by holding on to a player for too long.
  25. Agreed about not having much value at the time they were traded, but that should also be an indictment of the front office, who have routinely sold low aside from the Diaz trade. At the end of the day it's about value in versus value out. If the Jays are loading up on bubble 40 man roster depth when trading their best trade assets, then I don't see how we can view that positively. Even though Giles and Stroman have more trade value than anyone else Shatkins has traded, I'm actually dreading (hyperbole!) the returns. They have to prove that they can get good prospects in trades before I feel confident. At this point I'm 100% on Team Stroman, sign him up to an extension ASAP, but I get the sense he's being shopped heavy so it's about getting the best return possible.
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