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Yeah, the original tweet made it sound like Ryu was helping to recruit Kim. Turns out Kim just wanted to have dinner, and you know Ryu ain't turning down a meal. We don't know how the Jays even value Kim as nothing has been reported about it (to my knowledge), so who knows. If the Jays are interested in him, then a dinner with Ryu where the Jays org may have been discussed couldn't hurt.
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I have no idea if Kim will be good or not, but from a fit and age standpoint, he's a logical target for the Jays. Can play SS/3B and is only 25. Would fit nicely with the current group.
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Yeah, Lindor being a MLBPA rep now definitely lessens the potential for an extension, at least a reasonable one. He's going to want to test FA to get as much money as possible.
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I'm actually bullish on Gurriel being a 120 wRC+ player, but him in a package for Gray, preferably followed by a Springer signing, would be great. The Jays would have to add stuff to the trade, but it's the Reds, so logic doesn't necessarily have to apply.
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The Reds are apparently looking to move Gray as well, who has a great contract, so it’s definitely a money issue, although with Cincy you can’t discount insanity.
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According to Trollosi, Ha-Seong Kim has formally been posted. Curious to see what his market is.
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
glory replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Agreed. It was mentioned that Lindor's been the 3rd best player in baseball based on WAR since he debuted, and that's true, but he has a 118 wRC+ over that span, where players around him in the top 10 are in the 130's and 140's. His value is largely dependent on defense and base running (and he's been a negative BsR the last two years), and I don't know if I'd trust those two things to age very well. Certainly not over another 10-12 years, or whatever it would take to extend him. -
General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
glory replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Expecting Lindor to be an elite players into his mid-30's seems pretty optimistic. Getting age 27-32 Lindor would be great, but then if there's still something like 5/150 or 6/180 left on his deal after that, then it becomes a much riskier proposition. -
General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
glory replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I wouldn't be against Gurriel as the main piece for Lindor, but I'd be wary of extending him for 10 years or whatever it would cost to lock him up before hitting free agency. -
Wonder what it would take to get Sonny Gray. He makes $10m in 2021 and $10m in 2022 + a $12m team option for 2023. That's nothing.
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My guess is he ends up getting something similar to Donaldson's deal last winter (4/92), maybe a little less. I doubt anyone is giving him 5 years.
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It won't be long until Morosi links him to the Jays, so might as well post this here before that happens.
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Agreed. The better option is clearly signing LeMathieu or Springer since both fill obvious needs, but a pivot towards Realmuto + trading catching depth, if that's what ends up being available to the Jays, has to be considered an option depending on the circumstances (what Realmuto would cost, what teams are offering for Jansen, etc).
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I don't think the Jays should be investing that much in a catcher turning 30 either, especially since they have a lot of depth there (even though there's no guarantee any of them end up being as good as JTR) but realistically if they wanted to acquire an "impact" player this off season, then a few dominos could lead to Realmuto being the most realistic player who fits that criteria. Then they can trade Jansen for another area of need, and so on. My preference in this market is one of Springer/Bauer/LeMathieu, and I would think that's the Jays preference as well, but circumstances could change.
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The Yankees tendered Gary Sanchez, so they might be out on the catching market, especially since they have to re-sign LeMathieu to a big deal. Not sure what other teams would be in on Realmuto at the price range he's looking for if the Mets sign McCann. If the Jays miss out on Springer and LeMathieu, and McCann signs with the Mets, then it might open up Realmuto to the Jays.
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Realmuto's options would be very limited if this happens, with Philly losing $850 trillion due to Covid (give or take) according to their owner.
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I'm pleasantly surprised by the Cole non tender as well. He didn't seem all that good last season despite the ERA, and cheap RP's are going to be plentiful in free agency so the more open bullpen spots (and the less spots occupied by replaceable parts), the better.
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It's been over 30 days since FA/the off season started. You don't need 30 days to figure out who you want to protect from your minor league system and who you want to non tender. Could have probably had both those things done by the first week of the off season and nothing would have changed. Seems pointless to spread this out. Of course getting these things (NT deadline, 40 man roster adds, Rule 5 draft, etc) over with sooner doesn't guarantee FA/trade action happening any quicker, but it doesn't need to be spread out over a month and a half, either.
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There are obviously more reasons than this (salary cap vs. non salary cap leagues, MLB suffered more losses due to Covid, etc), but I don't see the point in having the non tender date, 40 man roster cut off, and Rule 5 draft happen around a month (or more) into the off season. If all of this s*** was done by the first week of the off season, then we might have seen at least some activity by now. Not sure why everything needs to be so spread out. Even pre Covid this was an issue with MLB off seasons. Last winter was a bit of an aberration since there was a lot of money thrown around.
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I wasn't suggesting the Jays sign Schwarber and I don't think they will. I was just taking a lighthearted dig at Atkins' love of that type of player. Jays need help up the middle. He's not it, obviously. He seems like a fit for the Indians who need OF's.
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Heyman and MLBTR have speculated that they might. He's like a Ross Atkins dream player (hard hit/EV, barrels, bad defense).
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Wong's probably going to happen. Although I'm fully on board with Grichuk for Segura if PHI is willing to do it.