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  1. I refuse to let these guys pull me back in, but big win either way.
  2. I blame Bassitt for this game. Not throwing a shutout knowing this team is only capable of one big hit a night (at best) is inexcusable.
  3. The time to trade everyone was July 2017. That team had proven it was old and had no gas left in the tank, but they let it ride for another year and got 30 cents on the dollar for everyone. That decision probably cost them either additional young pieces they could have paired with this core or more trade bait they could have turned into vets. Just an awful decision in hindsight.
  4. Guardians powerhouse offense showing the Jays how it’s done. Can’t believe the Jays couldn’t split that 4 game series.
  5. Chapman on a long term FA deal in his 30's is disgusting. Let someone else live with that. Offer the QO and if he takes it then great. If not then you take the pick and move on. Teoscar would fit the team needs perfectly, and we know he'd energize the clubhouse, but curious to see what type of contract he could get. The FA market doesn't look that great, and he's had a great 2nd half of the season. I could see him getting a 3+ year deal somewhere. If he's looking for a pillow contract then the Jays should be all over it.
  6. Yeah Rogers is not going to green light a rebuild regardless of who the GM is. Which is why I think they keep Atkins for at least one more season. They will look at the last 4 seasons and see playoffs (Mickey Mouse appearance in a 60 game season but whatever), 91 wins, 92 wins, and probably somewhere between 82-88 wins this season depending on how badly they want to collapse down the stretch. They will look at the latter as a down year based on unforeseen underachievement and bank on the same players improving next season with improvements added around them + new coaching staff (at least on the hitting side). Would that be the right thing to do? That's up for debate, but that's what I see happening. I'd be pleasantly surprised if they replaced Atkins with someone like Click and let Click be the one to try to get the 2024-25 teams into the playoffs instead. Atkins isn't bad, but they can find better.
  7. What I think will happen: Atkins stays, every coach on the hitting side is gone, and Schneider probably 50/50 at this point depending on how they finish this season (ex. if they go like 5-10 the rest of the way after going 0-4 against the Rangers, then he’s more likely to get canned). Walker is probably safe unless Atkins is gone.
  8. I don’t know, I don’t see Shapiro cutting bait unless it comes from above him. Attendance has been good all year and they held a playoff spot with 3 weeks left in the season. Might be considered a win for Rogers but who knows. They will almost certainly do something with the coaching staff, whether it be Schneider, Guillmero, or all of the above. The fans are going to want a pound of flesh and that’s the easiest way to give it to him without wholesale front office changes.
  9. Bichette has a 4% walk rate. He wasn't drawing a walk in that AB. Just had to hope he hit any mistake Eovaldi made around the strike zone, but didn't happen.
  10. Merrifield's been an automatic out for a while now. Varsho definitely catches that.
  11. Man that Vladdy shot looked like 2021 Vlad. If he has a 2 week hot streak in him, now is the time.
  12. Yeah, David Samson went over the deal a few years ago. Apparently, both Johnson and Henderson Alvarez failed their physicals, but the deal was pushed through regardless, and the Marlins apparently chose Nicolino over Syndergaard. Unfortunately the Mets didn't choose Sanchez over Thor in the Dickey deal. Or maybe they asked for Thor, I don't remember. Those two deals were awful. No other way to slice it. AA improved significantly after that (2014-15), but everything those two trades represented was just awful. Trading a glut of prospects, taking on enormous salary attached to 30-something's, etc.
  13. Bloom had one of the worst runs I have seen. He messed up practically every big move he made. Surprised he even lasted this long. Bad news for the Jays since if the Red Sox hire someone who actually knows what they are doing, then they have some of the pieces there for a quick turnaround.
  14. He showed glimpses with the Jays, but he wasn’t a finished product yet (see the Marlins trade, Dickey trade, etc). He really took off after leaving the Dodgers, and he hasn’t been making any of the mistakes he made while here. Even the big trades he made with the Braves that involved prospects were basically rehashes of the Donaldson deal where he traded prospect depth for a star (Olson, Murphy). Nothing close to the Dickey trade or anything like that. The other aspect is that Beeston didn’t want deals exceeding 5 years so that limited what AA could do, and Rogers likely has different expectations than other owners. Plus it’s easier to get the Morton’s of the world to sign in Atlanta than Toronto so he has that advantage. Not quite apples to apples. Either way he went from good in Toronto to elite with the Braves.
  15. Yeah AA inherited quite a bit but his fingerprints are all over that roster now, either in terms of contracts, homegrown players, trades, etc. No one can question his work at this point, he’s one of the best in the game. With that said, as others have mentioned, he’s not the same guy now as he was in 2010-15. Without those two years with the Dodgers, I’m not sure he turns into this type of executive. Although, in hindsight, I do wish he stayed on post 2015. Having seen how Atkins rebuilt this team, I am curious how 2015-16 AA would have done the rebuild.
  16. Yeah the Jays really needed a split with the Rangers at the bare minimum. Losing 3, possibly all 4, is putting them in a very difficult position. Losing today might be the nail in the coffin since the rest of the season is all AL East teams who the Jays have bent over for all season. Thankfully I enjoy watching playoff baseball even when the Jays aren’t involved (lord knows I’ve had a lot of practice with that over the last 30 years), and the 2023 Jays team is so boring to watch that missing the playoffs might be doing the fans a favor from an entertainment standpoint.
  17. Looks like there won’t be a mystery as to whether Green exercises his player option.
  18. Other than Babe, has any hitter on the Jays pulled anything so far tonight?
  19. Not even a Term game thread can fire this team up.
  20. This season does resemble 2008. IIRC that year they had the best pitching in the league but stopped hitting for power (or hitting period) until Cito came on board. I vaguely remember Matt Stairs blaming the hitting coach for messing some of the hitters up (in his opinion). Thankfully there are 3 WC’s now so the Jays have a better shot than they did in 2008, but the parallels are there.
  21. The one benefit for the Jays is that the Rangers and Mariners play each other 7 times. That’s 7 days where at least one of those 2 teams is guaranteed to lose. Of course the Jays also have to win, which is the hard part. The Jays have been ass against the AL East and face nothing but ALE opponents after this series. It’s going to be a tough last couple of weeks.
  22. That same logic should extend to other teams too then. Every decision the Rockies make is good because they too hire people to run a multi million dollar business, and they have better information than all of us, so that explains why their moves don't make sense to the general public. We don't have the right information. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. If you believe this team can't make a wrong decision or be questioned for any decisions, then we will have to agree to disagree. People are going to question decisions, inconsistencies, etc. It happens. If you want to argue back (ex. I thought keeping Bassitt in the game was wrong, you could easily argue why that was not the case), then that's fine, but if the only argument is "they have information none of us do so let's accept it", then that kinda defeats the purpose of a message board.
  23. The team doesn’t have any HR power for some reason, and now they are minus the two guys who actually displayed power this season (Belt and Jansen). Against good teams this is going to get exposed. Either the pitching is going to carry them or it’s outside looking in.
  24. Jays get a break there but what a stupid base running decision.
  25. This team sucks to watch.
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