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  1. I think down the road there will be a real debate about whether the Jays traded the right catcher (Moreno instead of Kirk), but otherwise, the trade was a logical “use a surplus to get a need” trade. Maybe it will look like an overpay if Moreno pans out quickly, Kirk continues to look like the powerless fatty he’s looked like for about 5 months now (July-Sept 2022, April-May 2023), and Varsho isn’t a league average bat, but even if Varsho is a 100-110 wRC+ bat and a good/great defensive CF, then he should give the Jays exactly what they traded for. Anything more than that and the Jays will be very happy.
  2. Pitching to Jansen instead of putting him on to set up the DP with Espinal at the plate was Buntoyo levels of 4D Chess but thanks Boone.
  3. That horn in between pitches (to get the crowd to yell charge) is really annoying the 800th time you hear it.
  4. glory

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    Yes but they don't make that trade if they were going to tank the following year so the chances of getting that pick are very slim (unless they have an awful season which won't be by design).
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    Glad the Raptors traded a 2024 pick for RFA Poeltl and avoided having a chance at getting a top 5 pick in this draft. The play-in game, the 13th pick in 2023, and no pick in 2024 seems like the better alternative. Yes, still bitter about that trade. Not about Poeltl, he is a good player, but about what that trade meant direction wise.
  6. Yeah, if the Jays were tipping pitches and Judge/the Yankees caught it then it is what it is, but Judge's response had a lot of Altuve "last time I did that I got in trouble with my wife" energy.
  7. Kirk's base running is horrendous.
  8. If Pearson wasn't so injury prone I would have tried to stretch him out and use him as a SP (gradually working the innings/pitch count up) but that ain't happening, so it's gotta be Mitch White at this point and accept whatever results come out of it. Manoah is broken and needs to be fixed.
  9. Lol at Kirk running to 1st.
  10. Can Manoah stop starting home games at least? Being down before the Jays even have an at bat in the game is getting old with him.
  11. A few more regular season home games against the Yankees and Red Sox > consistent playoff revenue Makes sense.
  12. Wasn’t Swanson warming up? Why on earth didn’t they bring him in to face the top of the order? Man, Schneider sucks.
  13. I'd be ok with having no divisions. Just an AL and NL. Top 6 teams in each league make it. Top 2 in each league get a bye to the DS, and then 4 WC teams. With the balanced schedule and every team facing each other throughout the season, the divisions are essentially meaningless. It only serves to the get the historically low spending teams (both Central divisions) into playoff contention when they'd otherwise be way out of it (ex. the AL Central this season).
  14. If you told me before the season that Orelvis' BB% would be around 8.0, K% around 23.0, and ISO over .300, I would think he's in the midst of a breakout season. It's crazy how bad his numbers are even after the last couple of games.
  15. Great outing by Bassitt and really glad Schneider went against his norm and didn’t go to the pen.
  16. Not watching the game, but please tell me no one is warming up. I know Schneider probably has the sweats right now wanting to make a pitching change.
  17. Signing Eovaldi over Bassitt would have been fine with me. I'm not sure if that was possible (it takes two to tango in free agency) or whether the Jays valued Bassitt higher due to less perceived injury risk, but performance/stuff/AL East history definitely was in Eovaldi's favor, and he got a shorter contract on a lower AAV. Thinking about it further, Atkins usually aims pretty highly in free agency (Ryu, Springer, Semien, Gausman, etc). In this case, Bassitt was a floor rather than ceiling signing, but still got a pretty large AAV. Could be worse though, the Jays could have been holding the bag for Rodon, which thankfully they didn't pursue.
  18. Yeah, Kirk's ISO in his last 400 PA dating back to last season is .082 and wRC+ at 101. He was great in April-June 2022, but then fell off big time and hasn't rebounded. It's early and he's still young, so he could easily bounce back, but considering his weight and the fact that he's the slowest man on earth, I'm not sure him vs. Moreno moving forward is going to be a slam dunk unless Kirk's 2021-first half 2022 power comes back. Who is better for 2024-beyond is probably debatable, especially if Moreno develops even a little bit of pop. Of course if first half 2022 Kirk comes back, then it's a different story.
  19. The 2026 talk doesn't negate the fact that 2023 (and likely/hopefully 2024-25) should be good, competitive seasons. It's just looking more and more likely that this is going to be a 3 year window, followed by a forced rebuild. I guess we have to hope Atkins has some Houdini trades left in him where he trades minor league junk and gets good, controllable MLB talent in return.
  20. Yeah, it’s looking that way. Atkins has been a solid GM on the big league level but he’s built this team in the exact opposite way you would have imagined when Shatkins took over (massive investment in free agency, trading prospects, no extensions to young players, middling/poor farm system during competitive years). If Atkins, Click, or whoever the GM is over the next few years can keep the train moving without any rebuilding phase in 2026, I’d honestly be shocked at this point.
  21. The Jays saw what happened in Game 2 of the WC series, knew they likely only had a three year window remaining, and decided to extend Schneider anyway. Whether it's him, the org's analytics, or both, they deserve whatever they get from this point on.
  22. Why is Kirk pinch hitting for KK rather than Espinal?
  23. We talk about Moreno and his lack of power, but should we be concerned about Kirk's? Since July 1 of 2022, he has a .083 ISO in 394 plate appearances (not counting tonight). His best attribute is clearly drawing walks and making contact in general, but he's probably the slowest runner on earth, so if he's not hitting for power then that's not the most useful skill for him. Hopefully he starts hitting for at least modest power at some point. He did early in 2022 but then stopped mid season and has never recovered.
  24. With only 2 years of Vlad/Bo left after this season, it would be pretty ballsy to replace Chapman with Barger, but at some point the Jays do have to start replacing departing players with prospects. If they put Barger there in 2024, then hopefully they can improve 2B/LF/DH enough to compensate for whatever growing pains Barger would have. Thankfully they have 5 SP's locked up for next season so in theory we shouldn't see another $20m AAV SP signing.
  25. Yeah I think it's clear now that if the Jays want any chance at sustainable contention beyond 2025 they are going to have to bite the bullet and sign both Vlad and Bo. That's going to be a $600-700m investment for two players, and likely some dead money in the back end for both, but I really don't see any other option. The farm system on the position player side is kind of ass right now, and I don't see that changing dramatically by 2025 to the point where they could replace either of those two internally.
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