TDotttt2005

Memo to Wilner : AA says Goins and McGowan aren't good enough. Change your narrative starting on JaysTalk tonight.

I know its an honest assessment on AA's part, but hes seriously trolling the fan base by saying that in an interview. He should just go a step further and say we're waiting on players to offer to defer some of their salary in order to upgrade at those spots, since thats the sad but true part.

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/04/25/toronto-blue-jays-gm-alex-anthopoulos-says-fifth-starter-second-base-spots-occupied-by-dustin-mcgowan-ryan-goins-are-teams-biggest-concerns No s*** sherlock. This couldve been written in November 2013.

I dont know...Lou Gehrig, I feel, was purely coincidence. All jokes aside, I always heard growing up playing baseball in the early-mid 1990's that no one under 18 should throw a curveball. Strictly fastball and change. If that was the old adage then, and its somehow changed with so much money at stake in the form of signing bonuses, etc. with these high school kids, I can see them using these pitches at an earlier age to get an edge in the eyes of scouts. Its kind of the same thing as steroid use. Take now, get money, deal with consequences later, sorta thing. Another theory I've heard, but no real way to substantiate it, is that pitchers pre-90's and 00's, would just "burn out" or have "dead arm" and retire at earlier ages because TJ surgery was not an option. Sports medicine is clearly not a forte of mine, but from what I've heard, there was no way to differentiate a UCL tear from a generic "arm injury" and even if there was, there was no way to fix it, so players simply retired. So really, there is no spike in arm injuries...its always been the same, but now there is just better diagnosis and better surgical techniques which players opt for, whereas before they'd just retire.

If the guy's parents named him Tommy John, he was destined from birth to need TJ surgery...Arm overuse as a youngster aside.

Shockingly an 8 man bullpen has not been enough for this team. Terrible. I see McGowan getting at least 1, but probably more starts...at least to get to the Super2 cutoff with Stroman. If he absolutely cannot go, then they'll go with Redmond in the rotation. Its standard Beeston/AA modus opererandi.

You're right...lets end the thread, Dickey is confident he'll get better. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/dickey-confident-hes-close-to-ending-late-inning-meltdowns/article18122331/

I'd like to participate, but I really have no clue who these guys are, other than names on other mocks. All I know is the Jays probably wont sign their 2 picks, because "Value doesnt line up" with the "number we have internally" for the player.

That said, 7 have come against potentially 2 of the best (Rays before they lost their rotation), and we have a 3-4 record against them. Not terrible.

EARLY UPDATE. Approx. 10% Mark of the season. 16 GP. Jays are 8-8, .500, 2GB the Yankees in the AL East, 0.5 GB the Twins for the 2nd WC spot. Current Pace: 81 Wins. No one predicted 81, but bowld, Eddiek19, King, Olerud363, John_Havok, and Gen.disarray are the closest with either 80 or 82. Atothe 12 Nabru 66 Over500 77 TheHurl 77 BTS 78 Dylan 79 bowld 80 Eddiek19 80 King 82 Olerud363 82 John_Havok 82 Gen.disarray 82 FrenchSoup 83 TDotttt2005 83 Anemic0ffense 83 jaysfan2014 83 Angryrioter 83 JfAs 84 GordieDougie 84 Sammy225 85 Havok24 85 orgfiller 85 ElNik2013 85 Spittin@Umpz12 86 Gsnarls 86 Jays_Fever 86 Fatcowxlive 87 KSaw 88 play2fade 88 Walkoff93 89 Ambomination 89 wilko 89 Gruber92 89 Northof49 90 theblujay 90 sAAviour 90 o2cui2i 91 Maahface 91 Spanky99 91 saskjayfan 91 Chappy 92 jays4life19 93 Jonn 94 awesomest 97 eastcoastjaysfan 100 Dineke 101

Whats terrible is that reports were that he refused (allegedly) to include D'Arnaud OR Syndergaard in a trade for Latos. Then he went and traded them both for Dickey. The Latos trade was the deal to make, and it wouldve fit with the 'rebuild' theme of the time (pre-2013) and the 'win now' theme (2013-2014). When AA gets fired, it will be because of the Dickey trade, and not the Marlins trade, as I've said before.

I didn't have my Personal Catcher.

Did he copy this thread? steve simmons ‏@simmonssteve 1m RA Dickey is like the Three Bears of starting pitching. It's too cold, too hot, too windy, roof open, roof closed: It's never just right.

Kawasaki, Goins, Sierra, Thole. No.

So f***ing sick of Dickey. Put him in the f***ing pen.

Since this guy thinks more about a pitch than researchers have thought of possible cures for cancer...Lets list out some of his excuses for "The Pitch" not working. 1. The Pitch is better with the roof closed 2. The Pitch is better with the roof open 3. Wind 4. Not enough Wind 5. It was too cold outside ... any others? This will go down as the worst trade of AA's tenure.

Ah ok, thought you could use the 26th man in both ends. You are correct that he shouldve been added to the roster with Rasmus ailing. Roster construction continues to be ridiculous.

Why you go with Bautista in CF and Sierra in RF with Gose on the roster is beyond me. They almost got burned by it in the first game, and I can see it happening again.

Assuming Reyes and Diaz start. Kratz, Gose, Goins, and a toss up between Johnson and Francisco. Both can play first/third, but I think its been a while since Johnson has done it regularly.

Were they all DFA'd?

Can we add 'When Beeston pitched that we'd make the playoffs two or three times in the next five years" ?

Survey comes around to Alex - AA: "Hey Mark, Jose, Jose, Melky, and RA...How much money you got on you??"

Admin, you hit the nail right on the head with your post. This could serve as a post-mortem once AA is fired. All that said, and as an update for those who didnt hear, Bob McCowan implied yesterday that he had knowledge of Beeston being against signing Santana, and thought it was a bandaid one-year solution. McCowan doesnt know if 1. Beeston said no to AA and refused to go to Rogers, or 2. Beeston deferred to AA, and went to Rogers, only to be stymied. I think its an important distinction, since what we really need to know, is whether the money was there FROM ROGERS or not. It was clearly there because Buehrle, Dickey, EE, Jose, and Reyes were willing to, and got approval to defer salary, but for AA and Beeston to just tell us 'the money was there' to placate us into not thinking Rogers capped them, is spin and untruthfulness that we really shouldnt be surprised at at this point.

I don't think it will happen, but that would be just another of the WTF things this front office has been known for. I can hear AA now talking to Bob McCowan about options and saying that Jeffress has a great chance to be a closer type guy, his stuff is great...this and that. Im making myself mad typing this, so i'll stop.

In all fairness, and as laughable as it is, had someone started the Can Ryan Goins Stick thread in April 2013, he/she would've been banned.