TwistedLogic

Unfair, I was not made aware of this caveat, I only read "comments", with no specific criteria beyond that.

If they hit him hard, I'm taking an easy over on 25.

http://sbb.scout.com/story/1407185-2014-mlb-draft-mock-v2-0?s=381 Kiley McDaniel's knewest mock. He goes Turner/Toussaint like everyone else and also mentions that Toussaint might already have a deal in place with the Jays, but apparently Nick f***ing Howard is a possibility at 11 now, as a reach/underslot deal. I'm going to keyboard-rage pretty hard if they do that. Also says that #11 is Hoffman's floor (if he gets that far), so apparently teams aren't as afraid of his TJS as we were hoping.

http://sbb.scout.com/story/1407185-2014-mlb-draft-mock-v2-0?s=381 Off-topic, Kiley McDaniel's knewest mock. He goes Turner/Toussaint like everyone else and also mentions that Toussaint might already have a deal in place with the Jays, but apparently Nick f***ing Howard is a possibility at 11 now, as a reach/underslot deal. I'm going to keyboard-rage pretty hard if they do that. Also says that #11 is Hoffman's floor (if he gets that far), so apparently teams aren't as afraid of his TJS as we were hoping. Gonna post this in the draft thread as well.

Edwin knows he missed a meatball. f***ing Shields voodoo'd him there.

That error last night wasn't all on Reyes, imo, Edwin had just as much to do with it.

One guy gets a bat, the other gets his ass shown on TV. One of them got the s***** end of that deal.

I would hope not... a guy who has shown severe flyball tendencies like Hendriks has so far, is NOT the guy to "put into Redmond's roll"

Really good read, thanks! I always thought that the amount of ridicule and hate the Nats got for sitting Strasburg in '11 was a bit unwarranted, and this confirms that to a certain degree.

My "thanks" on this post was a year overdue.

Some of you seriously need to get a grip.

Edwin still put himself in the record books with that blast: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/rb_hr3.shtml Most home runs for an American League player in May (tied with Mantle)

Nothing. People are never going to stop being self-entitled armchair GMs and people are never going to stop pretending like they know what happens in the front office. Yeah the majority of the bandwagon will sway with the flavor of the month, so if the Jays make the playoffs and a few popular posters start rooting for AA again, you'll probably see several others chime in, in agreement, but even if the Jays win back-to-back world series, if they start struggling the season after, it'll be back to calling for AA's head. Just look at the examples in front of you. Jays fans would have done anything for a 20-30M bump in payroll two years ago, today, 50M+ later, Rogers is still a bunch of swindling cheap villains. Red Sox fans were elated just six months ago about their star manager and their world series team, just a few months later, almost all of them are completely pissed with Farrell because they're realizing how garbage of a manager he always was. A month ago, we had a "Fire Seitzer" thread, today we've got one singing his praises. Hell, people even turn on the players themselves on a weekly or even nightly basis. So the short answer is, the team can't do anything to change the way people are, no sports organization is perfect, and until that fact remains true, there will always be slip-ups and mistakes and missed opportunities, even by the best teams, and at every turn, there will be a group of "fans" ready to fiercely take their anger out on their poor keyboards.

Aren't you like 20?

I wasn't implying they were linked to them anyways, I doubt they were linked to all of them, was just pointing out the strangeness of the trend. I wouldn't complain about it, but Colvin has still been twice as good as Snider over his career, in 200 fewer PAs. Choice has been bad so far this year, but he's still been a great prospect for a long time, and he can still end up a contributor. Can't imagine anyone would rather have McGuire over him.

lol, it's kind of sad if we've created an environment on this site where someone making a genuine thread about Jays moments has to be wary or afraid of being criticised. As for your thread, I'll go with the cliche and say that the Carter home run is my all-time favorite, but the Delgado 4-homer game, and the Bautista 3-homer game also stand out to me. Morrow's 17 K's of the Rays, and the back-to-back-to-back triples a year or two ago are both up there for me as well. To be honest, last night's walk off might genuinely be of my favorite Jays moments, just because of how it played out, and the context around it.

Almost positive that he means $60 for the pair, if not, his OP doesn't make any sense. Agreed

Come to think of it, there might just be some sort of drafting curse on the Blue Jays. Since the Jays drafted Aaron Hill in 2003, every single year outside of 2011 (where we failed to sign Beede), the team drafting right before the Jays has gotten an MLB-regular or a player currently considered to be a great prospect, while every single one of the Jays picks over that time (through 2010) have either flamed out, or been a complete bust. It's a very random, strange and unfortunate trend, but check it out... 2003 - The Toronto Blue Jays select future All-Star, Aaron Hill 2004 - The Diamondbacks select Stephen Drew (15), right before the Blue Jays select David Purcey (16). 2005 - The Brewers select Ryan Braun (5), right before the Blue Jays select Ricky Romero (6) 2006 - The Cubs select Tyler Colvin (13), right before the Blue Jays select Travis Snider (14) 2007 - The Reds select Devin Mesoraco (15), right before the Blue Jays select Kevin Ahrens (16) 2008 - The Brewers select Brett Lawrie (16), right before the Blue Jays select David Cooper (17) 2009 - The Cardinals select Shelby Miller (19), right before the Blue Jays select Chad Jenkins (20) 2010 - The Athletics select Michael Choice (10), right before the Blue Jays select Deck McGuire (11) 2011 - The Toronto Blue Jays select and fail to sign Tyler Beede 2012 - The Nationals select Lucas Giolito (16), right before the Blue Jays select DJ Davis (17) 2013 - The Pirates select Austin Meadows (09), right before the Blue Jays select Phil Bickford (10)

Exactly. Was crushing to see Giolito fall that far and then get picked right before the Jays selection. Felt the same way when, after weeks of rumors tying the Jays with Meadows, once again, he got picked by the Pirates just one selection before the Jays. Seems like a running theme (happened in 2008 when the Brewers took Lawrie right before the Jays and Toronto ended up with Cooper), so I'm hoping that trend somehow gets bucked. If we can walk away with Hoffman with the 11th (compensation for Bickford), I'll feel a lot better about losing Meadows.

This kid is the next Hawk Harrelson:

King at a ballgame

Behind-the-back catch Six different Miggy home runs... lol

50 Cent, ladies and gentlemen. Had some great movement on that pitch.

I didn't wanna post this during the game because I know a lot of people around here are superstitious (me included), but halfway through that game I wanted to just point out that if we were going to win this game, it would be kind of an amazing testament to the fact that lately, if the pitching is doing poorly, the bats bail us out, and if the bats are silent, the pitching carries us through, and if neither are particularly good, it seems we've got some pretty excellent defensive prowess in a pinch, and that is what did end up winning the game for us. One of the best defensive games I've seen from the Jays in a very long time. Every guy on the field was on point.