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  1. TwistedLogic
    None of those guys were ever top 10 in the system, or even close to it. My question was how many of AA's top prospects had busted. Nobody is ever going to be perfect or even close to perfect in the draft, but that isn't part of equation here. The original discussion was about the likelihood in "Norris, Sanchez, Osuna, Castro, Foley, Smoral" all "crashing and burning". None of the draft prospects you guys mentioned ever got to that stature before busting. Every time an AA pitching prospect has gotten to that level, he's either been traded for a valuable MLB piece, or he's made the roster for a prolonged period of time. The only exceptions are Deck McGuire and Kyle Drabek (who may still have something to give as a reliever). That isn't to say that all of those guys are going to pan out, there's a near-impossible likelihood of that happening. I just don't think that there's need to take the traditionally pessimistic approach to the arms in this system, because that same system has seen a ton of success in recent years. Edit: North was able to word it a lot more eloquently than I did.
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    I'll give you Deck McGuire, forgot he was drafted by AA. Tyler Gonzales was never a top prospect. Right; I mentioned Hutch as a success because I mentioned Molina as a failure. Both guys were developed and broke out while AA was the GM. One was kept and became a valuable major leaguer, the other was dealt in a very defensible trade right before he flamed out.
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    Incorrect. See my previous post. Kinda like turning Nolin and Graveman into Donaldson?
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    I'd honestly like to see a list of top Anthopoulos pitching prospects that have flamed out. The only name that comes to mind is Nestor Molina, who was acquired prior to AA's tenure as GM, and was smartly traded right before he became a bust. Nolin and Graveman were used to acquire Donaldson, and are both top ten in the A's system. Nicolino was used as a significant piece in the Marlins deal, and is still #3 in their system. Syndergaard is a top 10 prospect in baseball. Norris is top 20, Sanchez is top 50. All three guys look to be at least league-average major league players at this point, whether that is in the rotation, or through the bullpen. Hutchison has panned out. Stroman has panned out. Loup came up and instantly became an above-average reliever. Yeah, pitching prospects bust all the time, but where is the precedent for AA's pitching prospects busting? Outside of Molina who he didn't acquire, and maybe Drabek if you consider trades, AA has had no major pitching busts (as far as I can recall; I'm probably forgetting someone).
  5. TwistedLogic
    Who cares if everybody is bitching though? Everybody here bitches about everything. You can have one positional hole on the roster and still make the playoffs. There's almost no such thing as a perfect team.
  6. TwistedLogic
    I understand and I agree. That said, can you make a list of upper-echelon Jays pitching prospects that have crashed and burned, that were drafted and developed under Alex Anthopoulos?
  7. TwistedLogic
    Who gives a s***? It's not a rotation. They're all vying for one spot, and it's not far-fetched to think that those guys can combine to give an above-replacement level contribution overall.
  8. TwistedLogic
    Which would be f***ing stupid. They already have two young guys that have established themselves in the rotation in Stroman and Hutchison. They have another two knocking on the door in Norris and Sanchez, with Castro not far behind. If only Norris were to pan out and Castro and Sanchez both were to bust, it's still only a matter of time before Osuna and Hoffman are knocking, with guys like Foley and Smoral then on the way behind them. There's no need to be locked into Shields for another three years by the time those guys are ready. The Jays have so much young talent that signing a guy through his age 38 season makes less sense for them than almost any other team.
  9. TwistedLogic
    I've been hoping they'd check in on him, but I don't think it's a realistic fit with their apparent budget.
  10. TwistedLogic
    You're a strange dude.
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    Not that that should come as a surprise to anyone.
  14. TwistedLogic
    Is this an old people joke that I'm not supposed to understand?
  15. TwistedLogic
    According to Bowden (yes, I know), the Padres and Shields aren't at an impasse; the Padres have simply submitted their final offer and Shields only has to decide whether or not to accept. There are several teams still reportedly in the bidding, but the Padres are considered the favorites, and a decision is "expected soon" (as of one hour ago).
  16. TwistedLogic
    I don't either, but I don't think the Jays will be able to compete with an offer from the Padres. I could see another team jumping in, but if he has two offers in the same general price range, there's no way he'll forego San Jose for Toronto. I think Kemp could be one of the more valuable players in the game if he's used strictly as a DH. Good thing the Padres are an AL team... or something to that effect.
  17. TwistedLogic
    Never done a draft and hold before, so Im unfamiliar with that concept. If it's essentially the same thing, then yeah that sounds easier. Just curious if people would up for something like that.
  18. TwistedLogic
    Maybe "Jo-Jo Reyes" (Jose, Josh and Reyes)
  19. TwistedLogic
    I wish Lind was still on the team. That way the top five could be called " "
  20. TwistedLogic
    Looks like Badenhop and Shields are now essentially off the market, with Badenhop going to the Reds and Shields pretty much a lock for the Padres. FA market is now pretty much limited to very slim pickings.
  21. TwistedLogic
    Hell, maybe we can run a contest based entirely on a one-time mock draft. Run an auction draft in the spring, post the final rosters in a contest thread, and come October, whoever drafted the roster that put together the most collective WAR in 2015 wins the contest. Would anyone be interested in that?
  22. TwistedLogic
    I just run some ESPN mock drafts to get my fantasy league fix every spring. ESPN might have s*** fantasy, but their draft interface is by far the best. I can waste away hours running auction mocks in there. I've been wondering if people might be interested in running a board mock draft on a random afternoon just to fool around, and maybe put up the rosters in a thread for bragging rights on who put together the best roster.
  23. TwistedLogic
    I wish I could get in on one of the board leagues, but I get sidetracked and distracted often, so I can't honestly commit to joining a league and actually participating in it consistently. If I know I can make that commitment then I'll try to join whatever league has space in it, but right now I'm really not sure if I'll be available and don't wanna flop out mid-season. Right now I'm considering taking a college semester in the summer, and I know if I do that, I'll end up forgetting about the league.
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    http://i.gyazo.com/4b28e4456ecb84de7471360936c1812b.png
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    Izturis/Goins/Kawasaki/Travis all vying for one spot in the lineup is a lot more ideal in my eyes than Dirks and Pillar both occupying a lineup spot simultaneously.
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