TwistedLogic

Time for back-to-back-to-back bombs by Edwin, Josh and Smoak.

Does anyone have the link to the Sportsnet.ca webcast? Wilner was supposed to be commentating the webcast, and Anthopoulos was supposed to be sitting in as an on-air analyst.

Baseball, bitches.

It's hard to see them not getting at least something out of the group of Smoak/Valencia/Barton/Colabello/Viciedo.

You call yourself a f***ing accountant. Sigh Thought I read somewhere that Boras was his agent. This is great. Not because I care about Viciedo in the slightest, but because it tells us AA doesn't see him as an OF, and he's actually managing his "depth" well to this point.

I love how someone is always unhappy. If the Jays do nothing, they're terrible at acquiring depth. When they acquire depth, the depth isn't good enough. When they acquire good depth, the thought that the depth will get regular playing time is so scary, that the Jays still suck.

Hurl's got a point. I felt the Boras thing was slowly dying when they drafted Hoffman, but I they were probably intent on picking him no matter who his agent was. This signing sort of reaffirms that notion though. You could argue it's a smaller signing so it means less, but we were convinced they wouldn't have even pursued a guy like Jeff Baker last year, so it's a step in the right direction.

We can agree on that now. Nobody could agree with it before he broke out. Everybody wanted him DFA'd, and there were so many people that were so sick of him by then, they weren't willing to give him a shot over anything. I'm sure most of his success came from his mechanical adjustments anyway, but confidence definitely seemed to be playing a role as well. I know the 137 PA sample size seems like nothing on the surface, but watching those games, there was a world of difference. He looked like a different guy everytime he was put in as a DH. If I remember correctly, he had 10+ errors in the field in the first two months of that season, and he looked like he was about to cry everytime he came up to the plate. You could almost taste the overcompensation, where he was desperate to make something happen from the plate because he was such an embarrassment in the field. Anyway, thankfully they realized it and they made the change, and it all worked out in the end.

Yep. He was doing great as a DH, but anytime they played him in the field, it seemed he was getting on tilt and it was carrying over to the plate. That was a time where he looked absolutely atrocious on defense and everyone was trashing him about it. It could have been nothing, but I suggested it was still worth giving him a look strictly as a DH, and I think Farrell at the time also said something along those lines, that he felt Edwin was taking his failures in the field with him to the plate. At the time I brought it up: http://i.gyazo.com/18093876ba0331f7881d6b29b94e2936.png At the end of the season: http://i.gyazo.com/f6e32710cecfe60eb93f53bb18395729.png People shot down the idea, saying it was only SSS and Edwin was still garbage, but I know that there is at least some truth to the idea that confidence can play a factor in performance, and as soon as Farrell decided to pull him off the field, the effects were instantaneous. http://i.gyazo.com/39247f35710b8d16325db360f2a08fc0.png I had just started following baseball closely at the beginning of the 2011 season, so I still wasn't familiar with advanced stats at that point, but looking back, his career splits show the exact same pattern that was present in May of 2011: http://i.gyazo.com/5561cba8dcb0b223df051647423cc8b4.png http://i.gyazo.com/f741301458ec4dc2baedbe3bec7c832a.png

Not me. I found a pattern in his splits back in May 2011 (SSS) and suggested the Jays give him more playing time at DH, and got shat on by everybody that posted at the forum I was at, lol.

Viciedo to become the next Encarnacion.

You can tell this guy is seriously excited to play for the Jays. He's desperate to get back on the field.

As nice as it is to know that he'll be on the roster sooner, it's impossible not to think about how this will negatively impact his body in the future, not only because that seems to be the norm for anyone who opts for this surgery, but because Saunders has a ton of injury-related trouble as it is. For a guy like Saunders, who doesn't seem to have the greatest conditioning or durability as it is, is there any chance that he'll begin to experience the major discomforts from this surgery sooner or more significantly than an average athlete?

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Jesus f***, I just woke up and it's black and blue now.

Seems a lot of people have also seen it white and gold on one occasion, and then came back later in the day and it was black and blue. This thing is tripping me out, I need some sleep, lol.

I don't know, but my dad saw black and blue in it. Seems one out of every four or so people sees black and blue, but I've also noticed a lot of older people see black and blue, and if it has anything to do with age, then the online poll numbers are probably skewed toward white and gold because the internet/social media is used more by younger people. My younger brother is one of the special ones who see brown and blue, lol.

This is totally off topic, but because the Internet seems to be going nuts over this thing, I wanted to see what you guys think. What two colors do you guys see on the following dress? Not a trick question or a troll, so answer honestly, lol. It's white and gold for me.

This has the makings of becoming one of the dumbest discussions in forum history. Having acknowledged that, I just wanted to pop in and mention that before you start puffing out your chest about 70 year old militurry storiez, you should read up on the Boer War.

So no, I wouldn't hire Brian Cashman.

It's pretty ass-backwards to cleanse Cashman of any blame for the Yankees' many garbage big-ticket signings, and then turn around and wholeheartedly s*** on AA for the Marlins trade, but even if you let that slide, anyone who thinks Cashman would be a better GM for the Jays than AA based on only what we know, is, as rjf so eloquently put it, talking out of their ass. Anyone that talks s*** about the Dickey trade, I'd love to see them justify the time when Cashman also traded for an aging pitcher after contending for a Cy Young award, and gave up Jose Contreras for half a year of below replacement production from Esteban Loaiza. For the people that love to talk about how the Jays gave up a s*** ton in exchange for less in the Marlins deal (which is still paying off for them), I'd love to see them justify the Yankoffs trade of Jackson (15.6 war in the 5 years since), Kennedy (13.6 WAR in the five years since), and Coke (1.1 WAR, 1.8 WAR in the two seasons after the trade) for Curtis Granderson. Everyone loves to lick the Yankees balls and say that it was a win-win trade, but it wasn't. It was a s*** trade. Ajax alone was worth more for the Tigers than Granderson was for the Yankees in the exact same amount of time. The Yankees have a garbage farm system, and they've had a garbage farm system for years. Since AA took over for the Jays in 2009, the Yankees have converted an entirety of two top prospects into regular major leaguers in Ivan Nova and Dellin Betances, who struggled for years as a SP prospect before finally putting it together in the pen. The last good guys to come out of their system were Gardner and Robertson, back in 2008. The only other top guys from their system in the last seven years were literally all traded to the Tigers in the Granderson trade. They've gotten nothing out of Gary Sanchez, they've gotten nothing out of Mason Williams, they've gotten nothing out of Bichette, and the "Killer B's" were an utter embarrassment until they caught lightning in a bottle and Betances finally emerged from the pile of steaming s*** to become a relief god. The Yankees are atrocious at signing free agents to long term deals, they suck at developing their own players, they don't have a good track record with the guys they've extended, and their good to bad trade ratio can't be much better or worse than the Jays. They have decent depth from time to time, but that's because every old f***er in the game wants to play for the Yankees before they retire, and so they get to squeeze marginal value out of guys like Ibanez, Jones and Ichiro on cheap contracts. I don't think AA is the best GM out there. I actually think that there are probably a host of executives out there that might be better for the job than he is. Having said that, the chances that the Jays actually go out and sign someone better than AA for the job are so slim that it wouldn't surprise me at all if the same people begging for him to leave right now are eventually bawling their eyes out when the Jays replace him with someone like Stewart or Minaya.

No, I simply choose not to spend any additional time rationalizing my stance to you. No offense but you aren't worth debating with.

Because the Yankees are garbage at scouting and developing young players, and the Jays have been elite at it since AA took over.

You do realize that the post you responded to was asking if there were any good free agent outfielders left out there? Kyle Farnsworth is not an outfielder, lol.

I like this signing because it puts pressure on Sanchez and Norris. Both guys want to start the season in the rotation, and now a 36 year old vet who's made more than 100M in his career is walking into camp. It'll drive them to perform as best as they can if they want to make the opening day rotation. The last time he was pitching, he threw a no-hitter.