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  1. As someone who had never been a serious baseball fan up until 2011 or so, I did far better on this than I thought I would. I got the top 9 of BP and FanGraphs, and 9 of the top 10 for BBB (missed 8th). The guys I didn't get: Farquhar, Pastornicky, Collins, Cooper, Roenicke and Jackson. I probably would have gotten Cooper if I had more time, but I know I wouldn't have gotten any of the others. Still, I'm proud of a 48/60 score. If somebody does this for 2012 onwards I know I wouldn't miss any, though I'm sure that is true for most people here.
  2. Rays under. O's over.
  3. I have one like this (but better, of course), but I've been saving it for a very special occasion. I actually thought of using it here and I'll probably regret that I didn't.
  4. + Russel Martin
  5. Don't know why I read this as "There's Wilners and the rest are just losers"
  6. Probably the first time in history that FanGraphs has been likened to "the best sorority on campus". Nearly everyone who writes for fangraphs is the equivalent of the legacy fat chick, except she probably still has acne. http://www.quickmeme.com/img/a5/a5c0bdda0d9adb4c98955af7b089aaf43f6b0ab358d1428e19a45e5468455fa0.jpg
  7. For the idiots that are complaining that the Blue Jays had a bad offseason, the Jays are credited with four of the 20 best moves of the winter. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-best-transactions-of-the-2015-off-season/
  8. Breakouts: Hoffman, Pentecost, Osuna, Foley Sleepers: Smoral, Labourt, Tellez, Boyd, Meza Busts: Castro, Nay, Tirado, Alford
  9. So are we really doing this in a 2013 thread, or are we making a new one? If someone makes a new thread for this, can they please call it something like "Sleepers, Busts and Studs" or "Sleepers, Busts and Breakouts" or basically anything that doesn't include the term "new legit guy"?
  10. I think I remember the Jays broadcast showing a clip of Felix teaching Alvarez that pitch, and I remember joking about the possibility of Alvarez then becoming as good as Felix. I don't remember what game it was, but I think it was a Jays at Seattle game, and at some point during the broadcast, they showed the pre-game clip of Felix teaching Alvarez the grip for the pitch. It'll be hilarious if that actually turns out to be true.
  11. http://i.gyazo.com/61c703d2eb61f686ebf7582b1fff2b8f.png Amaro is a sick being.
  12. Every year on this day, Spanky turns 21 all over again.
  13. This is true, but what if they took both Stroman and Giolito, and instead saved money by not taking Smoral way overslot? Pains me to think about that though, so I'll go with what you said, lol.
  14. That second list you named, the plenty of guys who became legit major leaguers. It's a really mediocre list to be honest. Three good/great first rounders and a handful of decent major leaguers, you'll probably get that in most classes, but look at any other year prior, and the list of notable guys is just generally a lot longer. Since we're talking about 2005 already, here's a partial list of some names that were in that class for comparison: 1st rounders: Upton, Gordon, Zimmerman, Braun, Romero, Tulowitzki, McCutchen, Bruce, Ellsbury, Garza, Lowrie, Buchholz Notables: Headley, Yunel, Gardner, Brantley, Pearce, Jackson, Bourjos, Joyce, Garcia, Romo, Hanson Others: Reimold, Wood, Slowey, Hundley, Hellickson, Estrada, Niese, Venable, Richard, Lannan, Badenhop, Morrison Selected but not signed: Posey, Lincecum, Axford, Davis, Avila, Cashner, Worley, Miley, Davis, Jennings, Smoak, Alonso, Hunter, Bailey, Alvarez, Fister, Lynn, Matusz
  15. As heartbroken as I still am about that, it blows my mind to this day that he even got all the way to 16. That's probably what made it worse. I didn't think he slip past the top 10; biggest cocktease of all time.
  16. I really wanted Gray, lol. When Gray went off the board, I wanted Guerrieri or Barnes. Felt like a consolation prize when Gray went to the A's and we got a guy who was committed to the same school that Gray was coming from. And wow, 2008 was a garbage draft class. As good as 2005 was, 2008 was just as bad.
  17. I agree. That's probably my favorite draft class since I started religiously following the Jays, not only because I remember how highly touted so many guys in that class were, but also because it had the added bonus that every guy had a great name, lmao. I'd say 1-9 all have awesome baseball names. If you wanna see a monster draft class, look at 2005. Though, while 2005 was insanely top heavy, I do think 2011 could end up being one of the deepest drafts ever.
  18. I know Friedman wasn't at the helm when they made the Townsend pick, but looking back at his Rays tenure, other than taking advantage of a 1:1 and a 1:3 to get Price and Longoria, his drafting has been pretty atrocious. They took Beckham 1:1 in 2008 when Alvarez, Posey and Hosmer were still up. They whiffed on LeVon Washington with the 1:30 in 2009, which gave them a comp pick in 2010, yet with three top 50 picks in 2010, they picked up Sale, O'Conner and Vettleson. They've gotten zero blue chip or even highly regarded prospects so far from twelve Top 100 selections in 2011, with their best bets being Guerrieri and his body of glass and Mahtook, who gets 40-45 overall scouting grades from FanGraphs and MLB. Even Shaffer, who they took with their first round pick in 2012, has yet to make any of their top prospects lists.
  19. Wanna make a friendly bet then? Without hesitating for a second, I say that Pentecost has the better career between him and Bickford.
  20. Speaking of which, I was just thinking about this last night. What an atrocious draft that was for the Rays. If I recall correctly, they had I think 12 of the top 100 picks? They've made exactly 0 legitimate prospects from that crop. The best of that class right now looks to be Mahtook, who BA just ranked 6th in a weak system. The Rays seem to be incredibly bad at drafting, and at the risk of people here flinging s*** at me for making this statement, I don't think there's even a doubt in my mind that AA has been better at drafting than Friedman throughout each of their respective AL East tenures. Yeah, they picked up Price (1st overall) and Longoria (3rd overall), but they're also the team that drafted Young and Beckham with 1:1 picks; even while occupying a very high spot in the draft many different times, they have an uncomfortably high fail rate with first round picks. Furthermore, for all the s*** we've given the Jays for drafting Romero (8.9 career WAR) when Tulo was still on the board in 2006, the Rays drafted Wade Townsend (0 IP above AA) when McCutchen was still on the board in the same draft.
  21. I agree. Their scouts know enough of a draft class to roughly predict how strong it will be the following year. I assume that this was why it was so easy for them to let go of Bickford; all of us knew at the time that the draft the following year would be a lot stronger, and lo and behold, that's exactly how it played out. They got Foley with their third pick.
  22. This is true, but if I remember correctly, Norris was ranked as a top 15 draft prospect and fell all the way to the 2nd round because of his Clemson commitment. That was a year where there wasn't a draft cap, so how did scouts of so many teams allow them to pass him over simply because they didn't wanna pay him what he might have asked for? I understand when teams let a guy like Josh Bell slip, who eventually signed with the Pirates for a ridiculous 5M, but I find it strange that you'd let a guy with the draft profile of Norris slip when he would only go on to sign for 2M. I guess it's because they think they can get a comparable talent for cheaper in the draft, where as in the IFA market it's like you said, either you sign the guy or someone else will.
  23. I get it somewhat, but what exactly drives a team to offer 4.5M to Vlad Jr when they won't give 3.5M to Beede? I'm not saying I disagree with the approach, or that I'm unhappy with how the Beede thing turned out, just curious as to what makes these younger, rawer prospects more valuable to them. Beede, Cole, Bryant, Nola, all these guys were passed on before they got to college to be abused by NCAA coaches in the first place.
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