Orgfiller
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I don't care what position he plays. 3B is a black hole and this is a terrific way to address it and offers a pretty decent floor with a high ceiling.
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You expect me to believe that from the contracts I listed, all signed within the last 10 years, inflation accounts for Realmuto getting $5M+ than the median catcher AAV?
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I realize the rest of his career barely counts but harsh to the three other orgs he's been a part of lol.
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It's quite possible to argue that Bauer is already worse than Stroman and you're kidding yourself if you don't think this is the case.
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Realmuto will be 30 on opening day. The age he is at the time he signs his contract is entirely irrelevant since he will be playing his first season of that contract as a 30 year old. Sure, he's good, but is he better than any of the guys that I listed above? Pretty much everyone who signed the contracts I listed were coming off better or comparable seasons prior to signing their respective contracts. I wouldn't consider a 5 year contract for a catcher to be a short term deal since most of them that reach FA sign for 4-5 years anyway and their aging curve is clearly not the same as other position players.
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I'm looking at market value for comparable catchers in recent history and either every FA catcher has been underpaid or it's Realmuto that's getting a lot more than market value. Even the extension catchers got far less AAV. Brian McCann - 30 years old, 5/85 Yasmani Grandal - 31 years old, 4/72 Russell Martin - 32 years old, 5/82 Buster Posey - 26 years old, 9/167 Joe Mauer - 28 years old, 8/184 Yadier Molina - 30 years old (July birthday), 5/75 Realmuto - 30 years old, 5/115.5 Something doesn't add up here.
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For what it's worth, Grandal projects to be just as good as Realmuto - better hitter, better defender, worse baserunning - and he'll be making $18.25M per year in his ages 32-34 seasons while for Realmuto he'll be making $23.8M in his respective seasons. I don't think Realmuto is $5M+ more valuable per year than Grandal is.
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He's a catcher with good but unexceptional hitting, good but unexceptional defense, and elite baserunning (for a catcher). Similarly talented catchers Brian McCann, Yasmani Grandal and Russell Martin signed for far less money, all of whom were superlative defenders with similar offense. Realmuto here is getting Joe Mauer and Buster Posey money, two guys with HOF level talent who signed much younger and were faces of the franchise.
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LOL this tops the Joe Mauer deal by AAV. Joe Mauer signed his deal in early 2010 so he would've been coming off 6.4 and 8.4 WAR seasons and the deal would commence in his age 28 season. Buster Posey deal: signed in early 2013, coming off A 10 WAR SEASON, beginning in his AGE 26 SEASON. Dombrowski got taken to the cleaners by Realmuto's agent.
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Yikes, that is a lot of money. I like Realmuto but I'd respectfully pass on those terms if that's what it took for us to land him, let alone having to outbid it. I wonder if there was other serious competition for his service or the Phillies just caved in to his agent's demands. Classic Dombrowski contract.
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I think the more important Angels staff member that Bauer would have a problem with is their pitching coach, Mickey Callaway. https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/02/19/trevor-bauer-cleveland-indians-training-tools-twitter-controversy-cy-young But regardless he's almost definitely just going to follow the money.
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Why do people do this? Literally no front office cares that Tanner Roark was better than Bauer from 2014-2017, not to mention the obvious 4 age gap. Lol @ pitcher W-L and WHIP in this day and age. If you look at stats that actually matter they couldn't be more different.
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MLBPA Rejects Universal DH and Expanded Playoff Proposal
Orgfiller replied to Jays24's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The catchers' union might have a complaint about it, idk. -
MLBPA Rejects Universal DH and Expanded Playoff Proposal
Orgfiller replied to Jays24's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Both of those events would still have happened since the extra innings rule isn't active in the playoffs. It's the 16+ inning regular season games that basically ruin teams' pitching staffs for weeks to come that are an issue, and it's not like the vast majority of fans are watching past the 12th inning or so. Those can be memorable for the few that watch them but they definitely aren't falling under the "best games in MLB history" since most teams give up around the 13th inning and start throwing out junk pitchers to eat up innings that they'll be demoting the next day and you might never see again (remember Chad Jenkins?). -
MLBPA Rejects Universal DH and Expanded Playoff Proposal
Orgfiller replied to Jays24's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Hot take: I found the extra innings rule to be entertaining, despite the gimmick. It made extra innings really exciting. However, it should go into effect at least into the 12th inning or above. -
I think you're the one that's confused about what people are talking about. The DH isn't nearly a strong enough concession for the players to accept the expanded playoffs which benefits the owners massively. The DH is much better for the MLB product itself, watching pitchers flailing away is bad.
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I mean we also said this about Chris Sale and his funky arm motion + lanky frame and he eventually broke. They're all pitchers so the injury proneness is expected but given two equal pitchers you would think the one with the partially torn UCL is the riskier ticking time bomb.
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Toronto has a large Korean community.
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2021)
Orgfiller replied to TwistedLogic's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The Giants don't have a young core at all lol. Their best players are a 30 year old second year man and a post-post hype 30 year old starter who is once again a year away from free agency. Their farm has some intriguing prospects, most of which are teenagers or recently having lost that label and 2-3 years away. They're basically a year or two from beginning to clear some massive bad contracts and are in general completely loaded financially. -
Yajure and Canaan are decent prospects in their own respect. The former in particular has seen his stock rise with each year, he's described as a pitchability high floor low ceiling guy but the strikeouts have shown up in the minors while being age relevant as a prospect. I think the Pirates are quite content with the package they received for Taillon.
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Stanley Johnson is a legitimate rotation player now. Nick Nurse and the Raptors' development staff did it again. Also loving what I'm seeing from Yuta Watanabe on the defensive end.
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Taillon isn't the guy you give up multiple top 10 prospects for. Far too much of an injury risk even compared to the average starter.
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Blue Jays sign George Springer to a 6 year, $150M deal
Orgfiller replied to Jays24's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The frontload every contract crowd got their guy. -
Blue Jays sign George Springer to a 6 year, $150M deal
Orgfiller replied to Jays24's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
6/120 is a non-offer, there were reports saying 5/115-125 wasn't getting it done and I'm sure most would prefer 5/125 over 6/150. It's pretty clear the Mets backed off on aggressively pursuing Springer, or they were kidding themselves if they thought he was taking a significant discount to play for them. -
I just don't see this upside. Seager is 33 years old and was basically equal to Gregorious this shortened season, was much better the year before when the latter was injured, and much worse two seasons ago when both played (roughly) full seasons. If anything I'd say Didi has the higher upside given that he's two years younger, is two seasons removed from a 4+ win season (consecutive ones at that), was at least as good of a player as Seager with the most recent data we have of them, and has significantly better positional flexibility - assuming it would be a lot easier for the SS to play 3B and 2B at a passable or better level than the career corner infielder.
