Dick_Pole

Your last few posts weren't addressed to me, but plenty of people have criticized Atkins for plenty of very valid reasons, myself included. This should not be one of them. If he was strung along, well so was everyone else who bet up the Jays to land Ohtani from +4,000 to +150, the reporters with egg on their faces and the countless salty fans of other teams who commented on it. The Jays FO and Rogers come out looking very good in this Ohtani saga, no matter what a very angry and negative keyboard warriors think. One of the few times where Rogers is going to be cheered on as an underdog.

Cuban who could pass for Middle Eastern or Armenian with that name.

Dumb take. Someone is stupid only when they take irresponsible actions or have ignorance that can result in some sort of harm to them. Nothing bad happened with this pursual by the Jays, except media people being dumb. A lot of goodwill was built though imo. I guess you could say they missed out on Soto but I don't think that was going to be a successful pursuit anyways. Based on what the Yankees traded, the Jays would have likely had to overpay more than what I'm comfortable with. And plus there was no rule against the Jays pursuing both guys at the same time.

Cashed in my 49ers SB bet. They aren't going to get any lower than +260 before the playoffs start and certainly not with this upcoming week. Basically can only revert back to longer odds from here if something blows up. Even a 5 point win against the Cardinals would move the needle backwards but a 30 point blowout won't mean anything. Replaced it with Ravens +600 on a much smaller size. Expecting a statement game on Christmas which will increase the 49ers odds and decrease the Ravens.

True. I wouldn't classify it as a doll though. Too human-like. With Ohtani it's more likely going to be in the image of a car or something. Nothing bipedal or the image of a living creature.

Dude is totally asexual. You alphabet people already have enough ambassadors pushing your various "agendas". Let the monks, eunuchs and chemically castrated have someone rep them for once. Society is always about pushing family and kids and love or hooking up. Let some rich dude be happy being a hermit with his pets and video games. I bet Ohtani doesn't even know how to jerk off.

We can all be rightfully pissed as the scam artistry behind this deal, but it won't have wide-ranging implications for MLB. No other player is going to agree to such an extreme deal. Ohtani is the unique combination of asexual hermit hobo lifestyle and sponsorships out the wazoo. He doesn't need the cash. He'll probably end up donating his deferred salary to a dog shelter or something once he gets it. Every other player needs to fund their lifestyle of having a wife and two girlfriends today.

If Guerrero had panned out to be a 60 home run king, people would be keeping their lips zipped on this. The Japanese guys are essentially free agents. If you put them in the draft like the American college kids so that they have to wait 6+ years before a big pay day, they might as well just stay home.

...at the time the money was earned. Since it's all deferred, it might not be the case. I'm sure in setting up this scam, there's some workaround where the Dodgers will set up some (virtual) satellite office in Ohtani's jurisdiction of choice and pay him $100 million a year to be the IT rep or something.

If the MLB is too gutless to stop this, the State of California should look into it for obvious tax evasion. Because you know the guy plans to move back home or some tax exempt island locale to accept the rest of his money once he retires. Jimmy go call up your DNC pal Newsom and alert him of this.

Gausman is a hero! Thing is, you don't bash what you don't view as a threat. No one ever s*** talks the Kansas City Royals. Plus if and when GOP gains power again, 90% of these media types are going to be crying a river and making idle threats about immigrating to Canada (aka Toronto) like they did in 2016. They are all secretly jealous of us.

As someone who is experienced in day trading bankrupt garbage, this could get real ugly, real fast. I wonder if MLB will experience contagion similar to what the regional banks in the U.S. did a while ago. Meaning the haves will be able to pick off assets cheaply from the have nots who are all busy cutting payroll. Mark Shapiro could be the new Jamie Dimon.

BTS coming in hard with the solid takes tonight.

I mean this sincerely, a lot of the reactions I'm reading here and in other places says a lot more about you as a person than it does Ohtani, his agents, the media or the Dodgers. The Jays put themselves on the map as a top tier contending team that can recruit free agents while the Yankees, Cubs and Giants all ran with their tails between their legs. This is so much a good news story, but now people with inferiority complexes for being Canadian, or being Blue Jays fans, or whatever, are going to make this about them. The Jays are a top 10 or top 5 franchise. I'd rather live in Toronto than most U.S. cities and definitely would prefer it over Los Angeles. If Ohtani feels differently than me and it took $100 million extra deferred over time to take advantage of some tax loophole to convince him of that, good for him. Doesn't take away from the goodwill built by the Jays over this. Unless, of course, the fan base behaves like Jan 6th s*** disturber because they believe something was unfairly stolen from them.

Lots of people need psychologists in here, I swear.

No more salty than a Taylor Swift breakup song!

Then don't read them.

Can't wait for the geniuses in the fan base to give Ohtani the Larry Murphy treatment. That will really get star athletes thinking that Toronto is a world class city worthy of coming to.

Basically whenever the Jays have wanted to sign free agents, they have been able to do so. Up until 1990 they weren't really that active and didn't really need to be because they were winning with their own players and trades. But when it came to supplement the World Series rosters, they basically had the pick of the litter. Late 90's and early 2000's were rebuilding and transitional years. But when Ricciardi wanted to spend starting mid-2000's, he could spend. Same thing with AA. He signed people when he needed to. Same with this regime. Stop being such self-hating Canadian losers.

Dave Winfield, Paul Molitor, Jack Morris, Dave Stewart, Roger Clemens, AJ Burnett, Frank Thomas (until he was treated like a turd here), Russell Martin, Kevin Gausman, George Springer and Hyun-jin Ryu all say otherwise.

Ok, so let's assume that the Jays offered 10/$600M and the Dodgers swooped in with 10/$700M, and that it was in such a last minute desperation attempt that their trusted reporters basically said it was over for them and even they got duped. How does this remotely look bad on the Jays or on Ohtani? Or that Ohtani was playing the team? It sounds like he would have legitimately signed here and the Dodgers had to outbid by $100 million, or 16.7%, to stop that from happening. There's no way to know if the Dodgers also offered $600 million or even $650 million that he would have signed with them. Other than from self-hating Jays fans/Canadians who just assume that the Dodgers were and always have been his undisputed #1 choice. Dodgers don't make this massive overpay unless they are 99.9% certain they are losing to the Jays and losing badly. As for the "Jays always lose to teams like the Yankees" in free agency. Let's review: Yankees re-signed Judge (doesn't really count as an FA, just signing back their own guy) Yankees signed Cole Yankees signed Rodon Yankees signed LeMahieu Jays signed Gausman, basically 75% of the pitcher of Cole for 33% of the cost Jays signed Kikuchi, basically infinite% of the pitcher of Rodon (because he's worthless) for 20% of the cost Jays signed Springer. And whatever you feel about that deal going forward, it'll be better than LeMahieu Yeah, the Jays have REALLY been losing to the Yankees when it comes to attracting free agents in the last 5 years /s Come on, this isn't 2004. Jays have proven that they are a top 10 or even top 5 destination for free agents based on the frequency they get them and the general lack of overpaying they do to get them. This Ohtani saga can only be seen in a positive light for the Jays by the rest of the league. The top free agent in baseball history almost signed here and it took an outbid of $100 million to make it not happen.

The more serious these Ohtani talks become, the less I care about the team extending Guerrero and Bichette. The Jays have demonstrated an ability to attract top supermodels. Why settle and put a ring on the fingers of the high school sweethearts who are a 6 out of 10 and 8 out of 10 respectively? It's actually a brilliant move by the Jays to try to move on from these guys without the PR hit.

Oh yeah, that guy's a f***ing weirdo. Still remember that time he and I had a mild disagreement about something and he wanted to make a $10K bet about it, with the money held in escrow.

Pretty sure that Ohtani is an asexual baseball-playing AI and being the cause of internet drama is his version of secret BDSM play.

People talking about all this "fake news" s*** as if that isn't all of the media, all of the time. Pretty much since Orson Welles accidentally tricked a bunch of people into believing Martians had landed. Social media just made it even easier for mass hysteria and false rumours to spread.