John_Havok

No doubt, I'd love to get my hands on the math that equated out to a 132 wRC+. according to MLB, "The system uses statistics from the previous four years for players from ages 24-38, and it weights more recent seasons heavier. For younger or older players, it uses weighted statistics from only the previous three years. The system also factors velocities, injury data and play-by-play data into its equations." His minor league numbers are probably still weighing in pretty large

Probably the same idiots that voted for Dickey, Napoli and the other complete joke votes this year.

Sure, but lets not pretend gold gloves and silvera sluggers for pitchers matter... at all. Greinke was better than Pettitte definitely. I don't know that the margin of how much better he was than Pettitte is enough for me to vote in Greinke, but I bet he does get in.

I think the dynamic would probably be the nerd going through all the very raw data and put together the trends for Ware and Walker to use when they talk to the pitchers. I have a hard time picturing Walker going over mounds of spin rates, pitch selections, sequencing and whatever other data they get by the ton from their various sources on every guy.

I think the more apt comparable to Greinke is Pettitte. Much closer in career length, similar fWAR totals, very similar careers in that they had 1 elite season each, then a bunch of pretty good ones... I truly dont think Pettitte is a HoF guy, but very close. I probably put Greinke in the same tier as Pettitte.

And making an appearance for the second day in a row:

Not saying that Doc is, or should be the bar for the Hall, but his career was definitely more dominant. Just using fWAR Seasons at or above 5 FWAR: Greinke 3, Doc 8 Seasons at or above 6 fWAR: Greinke 1, Doc 6 Seasons at or above 7: Greinke 1, Doc 2 Seasons at or above 8: Greinke 1, Doc 1 Basically Greinke had 1 elite season and 2 great ones, Doc had 3 elite seasons and 5 great ones. Greinke also had 3 seasons at 4.8 or 4.9, so one could probably give him some extra credit there. Docs peak was basically 2001-2011, 62.9 fWAR over 11 seasons. Exactly 2300 IP, 319 starts and put up a 2.98 era, 3.08 fip, 3.16 xfip Greinkes peak was 2008-2019, 54.2 fWAR over 12 seasons, 2416 IP, 376 starts 3.11 era, 3.19 fip, 3.34 xfip. Greinke was pretty solid, #’s are pretty close. Halladay definitely better but not by a large margin. Greinke easily has the longevity factor, he will have 7 seasons outside his peak, though none of them have been anything other than 2 fWAR or lower. The way I see it, both have identical fWAR over their career as it stands right now Greinke 65.5 vs Doc 65.4. Doc did that in 15 seasons with the vast majority of it in that 11 year peak, it’s taken Greinke 19 seasons. Halladay better, Greinke a tier below.

f***ing ipad double post ********. Anywho, here's the 3 in house non-roster LHP ST invitees: Brandon Eisert: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/brandon-eisert/sa3014798/stats?position=P Jimmy Robbins: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/james-robbins/sa3011145/stats?position=P Jimmy Burnette: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/james-burnette/sa3017367/stats?position=P All look like they can miss bats, but Burnette looks like he also misses a ton of plates. Not sure what to make of Robbins as his K/9 took a big step back in 2022, but his walk rate also improved dramatically. Eisert probably the best bet out of the three, though slightly homer prone. Chafin signing incoming? I can't seriously think that the FO wants to go into 2023 with 1 proven lefty and 3 non-roster invitees as their only options.

This leaves us exactly 1 left handed reliever on the 40 man roster. Feels like that’s not ideal?

This leaves us exactly 1 left handed reliever on the 40 man roster. Feels like that’s not ideal?

Even normal, every day, healthy FA signings usually take a week to 10 days to become official after they announce the "agreement to sign"

Waived by Toronto in November along with Casey Lawrence. Lawrence went unclaimed, Suacedo was picked up by the Mets, who just tried to sneak him through waivers now, and he got claimed again.

and here's the other Sierra that wore 14 that wasn't Ruben.

I think the thing I dislike about St Louis the most, is how they always seem to end up getting competitive balance picks, when they're clearly not a team hurting for money. It's like they have all the benefits of a large payroll team in that they can retain or sign any free agent they want (within limits) and then get handed a few extra picks even though they continue to do well in the standings. Not hard to succeed when they have the best of both worlds.

My gut reaction is no, but... id have to do a deeper dive on some things before arriving at a conclusion

I dont get emotional about it anymore at all, but those were the younger days when emotion ran high before logic and intellect asserted itself.

I was legit pissed when they traded Green. Right after his only all star season, he and Delgado has just cemented themselves in the middle of the lineup.... but of course at that point i was never really following anything other than the on field stuff, so had no idea about the sale of the team and the ******** that was about to happen.

McCoy was my first thought too, but yeah wasn't there the year this was taken, it was 2008.

My guess is Joe Inglett, as the caption from the pic where i found it says its Marco Scutaro... but that doesnt look anything like Scutaro.

6 interesting names there for my money. Hernandez, Fernandez, Francis, Juenger, Robberse and Tiedemann

"Trip from a-ball to the majors is often done in 2 years no matter what the players age" - this really doesn't happen all that often overall for MILB players. There's hundreds and thousands that never even sniff the majors. Though I think maybe youre meaning, of the players who eventually make the majors, they often make the jump from Aball to the majors in 2 years. That would be more accurate.