John_Havok

Yeah I remember that outing, utter dominance. He also tends to leave his slider very crushable.

Looks to me like his breaking balls are very identifiable out of his hand allowing hitters to completely lay off them. I’d also suspect he’s tipping as that seems to be a common theme this season and a guy that throws 97-100 shouldn’t be having his heat squared up as much as it is.

Another pitching matchup where virtually 0 jays have seen the pitcher before. He’s nothing special though. Throws a ton of strikes and leaves a lot of those strikes over the heart of the plate. July 24 (10:10pm) Vladdy - 1 Point - Springer - 2 Points - Belt - 2 Points - John Havok Chapman - 3 Points - Dylan Varsho - 4 Points - JaysAllMighty Kirk - 5 Points - Merrifield - 6 Points - Kiermaier - 7 Points - Espinal - 7 Points - Off the bench: 10 Points - Abomination

Well there is the mutal option for 2024, which of course will be turned down by Bellinger at this point unless he gets catastophically injured. Comeback player of the year bonus of 1 million too. Belli is taking home 17.5 minimum, could get 18.5 with that bonus. Not bad at all.

I think i'd still bet on Teo not being a good OF going forward rather than looking at this season where he's doing well and thinking he's turned a corner.

Pirates listening on David Bednar....per Jon Heyman so take with a grain of salt. BUt if true.. yes please

I mean, they can afford it in the strictest sense of the term "afford" but it doesnt mean they should. Chances are he gets his option denied, no qualifying offer and maybe they try to work out a multi-year deal Like, if Whit was actually the primary bench guy rather than the starter, THAT would be ideal. And not like 200-250 PA bench guy but rather the legit 10th man that spells the 2b, LF, would DH some days, pinch run a ton, late game defensive replacement where he'd end up with 400+ PAs. Basically, he'd be Espinal and Biggio rolled into 1 player, and actually be useful instead of a s*** sandwich.

THis is my point entirely. Its on the individual.

Pearson sent to AAA to work on breaking stuff. per Zwelling.

Would be interesting, but he's far from good defensively. This season's version of India is probably what he is offensively with maybe some higher upside with the bat, though not expecting anything too much better. I think i'd look into it and see what their ask is, but no Id probably not want to trade Manoah for him straight up, despite Manoah's current struggles. we know Manoah can be better, at least a solid #3 Maybe a solid 3 for an okay 2b makes some baseball sense, but wouldnt want to do it at the deadline.

i dont think you understand. Every other team in baseball's closer is perfect that throws nothing but 1-2-3 innings and never makes mistakes. Only Romano makes mistakes.

It was better, but still very inconsistent. One hitter he’d have the plus, next he’d be putting it in the LH batters box.

I understand that. My point is a team can only advise, they can’t force a player to do literally anything in the off-season. Yes, it sucks that grown ass athletes for some reason can’t figure out that being in better shape would probably be better for them. Seems like a no brainer. But they cannot be forced. They only thing the Jays could do is keep them in the minors as long as they can as some sort of “punishment”, release them, trade them…whatever. But what’s the upside in that for a guy like Kirk? Even as he is he still provides more wins than half the catchers in baseball, and you know there’s more upside there since we’ve already seen it. Punishing Kirk by keeping him in the minors or releasing him only hurts the team, so you’re left with trades as the only way to get rid of him. Can’t do that unless you have another catcher ready to come in and be Jansen’s injury insurance that also provides the same value as Kirk, otherwise again, just hurting the team. All the Jays can do is hope that each players struggles, perhaps combined with the example of Ryu returning with his lost weight and hopefully pitching well that it creates the lightbulb moment that they need to get their s*** together. As for the draftee pitcher, he’s got lots of time to turn that around, hopefully it was just a result of him being away from the game for so long

It was a figure of speech. Teams can offer any assistance they want, at the end of the day it's the player that has to want to do it. I get that people think signing a contract to play baseball for a team somehow gives that team the authority to control everything the athlete eats 365 days a year, but they don't. They can only advise. The player is responsible for their own health

It's not the Jays fault a player shows up fat. Individuals are responsible for their physical conditioning. You can lead a fatty to salad but you can't make him eat it

Varsho

Strong legs, core, back and shoulders for sure, along with forearms. But yeah bulking up in what most people traditionally think when they hear that term would be idiotic for pitchers.

I sense a ghetto GDT coming…

Holy hell this ump is beyond s*****.

This ump can f***,off right along with whoever is callng the pitches today

Damn right about that

Who knew?

You’re only whining because Pearson sucked. Had he gone 3 up and down, wouldn’t have been a peep

Really weird to a guy who can’t hit sliders get thrown a changeup with two strikes, when he was clearly sitting soft

And tell Vlad he needs to make some f***ing plays down the line. He got there and just missed it again