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Blue Jays sign George Springer to a 6 year, $150M deal
Laika replied to Jays24's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I think there are no rumours because Bauer is just getting to know all of his suitors. It doesn't seem like he's fielding offers yet. It is possible that his market is softer than people think. He's probably asking for $36M AAV and hoping for $30M (on a long term deal). Teams might not view him as Cole/Strasburg though... if he's seen as more of a Wheeler/Ryu talent then his AAV will not get so high. I don't think his persona helps him either. Teams aren't looking for off the field drama - they want their stars to be adored by all. -
Cleveland projects worse than the Twins/Sox but not by miles. They are a strong developmental org for pitching so they can also sometimes find more wins than expected. They should be trying to win.
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very interestttttiiiingngngg hmhmmhmhmhmhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Roark. I'm excited to see that diesel truck get rolling in 2021, when Toronto will need him to devour a disgusting amount of horribly pitched innings. I want him to lead baseball in IP and then f***ing retire with a dead arm.
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This is clearly post facto reasoning by Sugano. I don't believe this actually influenced his decision. At the end of the day he took a record/mammoth NPD contract that he probably did not expect would be offered.
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You said "... Martino is the only one who's mentioned the offer totals for both teams..." My point was that Martino's article doesn't even say the Mets made an offer. I don't disagree with you that he might not be right about the Jays' offer.
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https://sny.tv/articles/what-s-next-for-the-mets-after-trading-for-francisco-lindor-and-carlos-carrasco-
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No. It. Did. Not. "The Mets were willing to offer him a five-year deal for a bit less than $150 million, sources told Martino." See the differences? It sounds like the Mets didn't even make an offer and they were only willing to go just shy of $150M.
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That article is pretty revealing. I like this excerpt: Pretty cool insight into the preparation of some pitchers. Being an Ace in 2020 is not the same as being an Ace in 1980... you need to do more than just be supremely gifted and hard working. You also probably need to be well organized, an excellent planner, and a bit of a research and development person. Maybe also a risk taker. It's almost like Gerrit Cole is the CEO of Gerrit Cole Baseball Player.
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This MAY not be strictly true. In negotiation you can try to snag a deal early with an ostensibly strong offer. In real estate people call this a Bully Offer. Say a house is listed for $500k in a hot market and you want it but think it will get bid way up to $600k. Maybe the only way to get it without paying $600k is to make the first offer at $550k, to get the seller to accept without letting their market fully develop. Not all negotiations work in a straightforward, auction-like manner.
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Never. This has never happened, at least not in modern history. Do any of our very old members remember an offseason this cold? I would not know if any of the MLB strikes had a chilling effect like this. Of course, free agency was way different back then so the comparison is apples to oranges.
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That's an insane contract for Japan, based on my googling. I think Sugano was already the highest paid player at around $6M...
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Yes exactly. Sometimes the teams that wait win and the players that sign early win.
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Blue Jays sign George Springer to a 6 year, $150M deal
Laika replied to Jays24's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Read it again. The Mets may not have even made an offer. It just says they were willing to pay a bit less than $150M. It also says the Jays $115M offer was an opening offer. For all we know the Jays are willing to spend a decent amount more for him if needed. For all we know George Springer has one actual offer right now and it's from Toronto... -
I have complete, unflinching faith in Ross Atkins.
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Hahaha that's real!
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Blue Jays sign George Springer to a 6 year, $150M deal
Laika replied to Jays24's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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Tomoyuki "Blue Balls" Sugano
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Imagine if the Padres swoop in and sign Sugano for like 3/$36. On the day Lindor goes to the Mets - Blue Jays fans would be super sad.
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Weird to think that a guy his age would return to Japan with a mind to try MLB again next year. If he does return to Japan it's probably because the Yomiuri Giants just decided to offer him way more money than he thought they would.
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Pretty mediocre return for adding Carrasco, I would say. Rosario is okay but more of a 2 or 3 year placeholder, now entering arb. He's a player who is kind of playing at his floor so maybe there is upside left. Gimenez is a slapdick prospect who you would just expect to be as good as Rosario. He has trade value though as a 50 FV six year infielder. Don't know much about Wolf and Greene but they are further away HS picks.. Dasan Brown types I guess. Makes me wonder how much more then even got by adding Carrasco. Shouldn't Lindor alone have been able to fetch Rosario, Wolf, and Greene? HMmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I don't disagree, but he's a big 2021 sleeper candidate for me. He hasn't been worth his contract but he's a dude to watch. He could still be worth it and there are serious signs of life.
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Kikuchi might be fine. He had a solid 2020 if you look past the ERA. Velocity was up too.
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So Sugano is taking this down to the wire (5 PM ET) and wants to match or beat the Kikuchi deal. The Kikuchi deal is: $10M $16M $17M Then four $16.5M team options that must be exercised together BUT there is also a player option for year 4 at $13M. So the guarantee was 4/$56M. Seems like a lot for Sugano mostly considering his age. Kikuchi was 28 in year 1 of this contract, Sugano will be 31. In terms of NPB performance, Sugano's stats are better than Kikuchi's career stats across the board but Kikuchi had a couple of strong years before coming over including a 2017 where is K rate was way up and his walk rate was way down. There was a narrative of stuff improvement for Kikuchi IIRC and MLB teams may have liked his ability to translate over because of his stuff. Sugano might also be willing to accept something like 3/$39 from an MLB team and this is all just firm negotiation. We will see!
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Sugano a ninja? Maybe he's already signed and no reporter has the scoop
