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Now the trick here is to NOT ask Thornton for another inning. Just use your good RPs and deplete the pen. Gotta do it.

Smart to yank Kikuchi early. I like it when my team makes smart decisions and it works out. Imagine being a f***ing moron who wants to push Yusei Kikuchi towards 100 pitches, ever.

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Could be anybody Hard to see them going back to Hatch

Check out Gerrit Cole's first inning

Nestor Molina

Is Justin Nicolino still in affiliated ball? Should have traded for Thor, signed Sanchez, and brought in Nicolino.

Aaron Sanchez has a 6.00 FIP in AAA this year He's not helping a competitive team with anything probably worse than even Tommy Hatch

For a full MLB season yes the rotation is too thin But they only have 59 games left And 6 off days on the calendar So they may not need the SP5 slot for as many turns as we think. And they have some cushion in the WC race now too. And most of the teams chasing them are clearly inferior. And a relative easy schedule too. fingers crossed worst case ontario just call up Ricky Tiedemann and ask him to give you 4 competitive innings

This basically depends on their length of track records, and projections. You pick the guy with the better projected results, easy!

You two KNOW this conversation is going nowhere. One of you needs to have the bigger penis and just stop replying.

No, but whiffs are just a more reliable and repeatable skill. This goes back to command vs. stuff On any given pitch command is more important. But in the aggregate stuff tends to be more important because it's way more repeatable. Almost nobody can place a pitch exactly where they want it all the time, but there are guys who can get that spin on their fastball every time they throw it and guys who can execute that splitter with 95% success. So when you are acquiring players, and projecting players, you will tend to care more about stuff. And loosely speaking stuff is going to = whiffs. But yes when measuring pitcher results (not projecting) which I guess you can call skill, you can and should just use CSW.

you know he throws like 89 now right?

B for sure Most reasons have been stated but this was a pretty tough deadline environment. Seller's market with some big blockbusters holding everything up. So the best illustration is probably comparing the Effross deal to the White deal. I think Wesneski and Frasso are comparable, with the value edge to Wesneski. For Wesneski the Yankees got a pop up reliever having a great year, with 5 years of control. For Frasso the Jays got White, who appears to be a viable SP, and has 5 years of control. White is a guy who had some great MiLB numbers, made some top 100 lists, has been rated highly in the past by stuff metrics. But Toronto didn't just get White, they got a hitting prospect from the Dodgers top 30. So they downgraded (slightly?) from Frasso --> De Jesus to get White. I'm not sure the 4th player in the deal is relevant at all. Toronto's trade just seems way better than the Yankees' more aggressively timed move. Toronto was patient and deliberate and got as much bang for their buck as possible, I think. I don't like the Merrifield trade all that much. It kind of feels like he's cooked and Castro had a present day function as decent pitching depth. That may have been an impulse move they didn't really want to make. I really like the Bass/Pop/Groshans trade upon reflection. I think they got quite a bit of value for Groshans when you look at Pop's stuff and potential and consider Bass' current production and cheap 2023 option. I like that Toronto went "off the board" with some acquisitions, it shows they were super exploratory and left no stone unturned. I like that they didn't submit to the stupid meme about getting more swing and miss in the pen. Good pitchers are what matters; whiffs are just one means to an end.

Definitely

Definitely

I'd be mad too if I was him He's too good to be an up and down player

Just a few innings It was scattershot control but peppered at the top of the zone or above it Good if you are profiling as a reliever but I don't know about the total package really

Don't care it's the big leagues

Agree entirely

The only reason White seems like poo is that the Dodgers have never given him a real shot.

Now that he's gone go look up Nick Frassos basketball highlight reels

I saw a limby guy who didn't have consistent mechanics or amazing command but could throw a fastball up which minor leaguers couldn't touch I don't think he's been tested but might be a bit of a one trick pony that won't live higher up, as a starter

Not a big fan of this one but I don't think Samad and Max are consequential losses, really.

Watch him pitch. He honestly doesn't look like a starter