GeorgiaPeach

I was one, and still stick by it. And to those hindsighting missing out on Latos. Just because Alex overpaid for Dickey, doesn't justify changing your opinion on why we didn't overpay for a much younger, far better pitcher.

Sometimes I'll just take anything I can get on prospects or baseball that gets spewed out by a reputable site. But when conversation starts getting relevant on a hodge-podge list that was mashed it into some sort of ranking, I'm like what the f*** is this and please stop. I do like the Top 20 lists for each MiLB league, but there's no reason to expand further.

I'd say somewhere in the 15-20 range.

I can't believe people are putting stock into a ranking based off a compilation of Top 20 lists.

I think there was some exaggeration there. There are some absolutely brutal farms and some bad ones that run into the low 20's in rank from last season. Agree

I guess you missed it where a couple currently playing and a non-playing analyst, besides Harold Reynolds agreed that pretty much every pitcher in baseball uses something.

Whatever happened to that f***ing tool?

Why? I'd rather sink 100M into Tanaka. Atleast near the end of the deal you could move him. That is unless he flops.

Was this copied from Bill James books?

I know Kev' has a soft spot in his heart for the 'Spos and its not a knock on him. I just can't understand why people keep thinking its this great market that's a must to go back to.

The Expos who in '92, '93 & '94 finished 2nd, 2nd and were in 1st place when the work stoppage occurred, with a ridiculously talented team were 10th, 13th & 11th in NL attendance. The Montreal market is f***ing s*** and I'm tired of hearing about how great it would be if Canada had another baseball team. Take the "I love Canada" aspect out of it, and MLB would me tepidly better off in Montreal than say Tampa, if they do in fact have a new stadium plan and an ownership group with money billowing out of its pockets.

It's always tough to trade or sell something at its peak value. But if a team wants to succeed long term, the GM has to identify that time and move the asset. Keeping the asset around for old time's sake is not an option. We should've traded Bautista when he was 30 and dominating the league on a team friendly contract.

I'm not sure what a team re-locating and winning or going to the playoffs just before they leave has anything to do with anything? On field product has nothing to do with a team re-locating.

Can you imagine the uproar amongst fans if we delayed the window to contend for a year or two, but made the team a helluvalot better? My god, the world might end.

Because you're applauding Farrell. Over the course of one year he hasn't become this ultra great manager. He's the same guy in a different system, with different ideologies and better players. So when I look at Farrell he's the same manager/person he was here. The team (collection of players + Red Sox big picture strategy) is what got them where they are. You make it overblown on Farrell's importance and effect on the Sox. Get it?

You musn't have been on the old Forum for long otherwise you wouldn't have made such a stupid comment.

But it was okay to ridicule Sox fans when they collapsed and had their hilarious season under Valentine. My what a great baseball fan you are.

Cito must've been great...the man won 2 World Series rings. I mean what group of Hall of Famers, Stars and solid players could win a World Series without someone Sharpie'ing a lineup card?

So why would a "big market" team like Toronto have long stretches of real lean years?

I'm wondering if the falling out in Washington was Espinosa's refusal to have his bum shoulder operated on? Seems he felt that strengthening the shoulder was the best alternative.

Its a move that doesn't fit in with this 3 day window the FO has created for the Jays to contend. Plus most fans including hardcores f***ing love Casey Janssen.

Yep. It's like OMGosh, we lost a 43 year old lefty 'pen arm, and Alex pulls out his Grocery List and adds 43 year old lefty 'pen arm to the equation. If Craig f***ing Kimbrel is available for nothing you don't run to Paul "I need to blow my brains out" Beeston and ask for permission to sign a 43 year old southpaw from Texas who'll probably threaten retirement instead.

I'd rather it hurt for a short time and be good for a longer time.

You forgot Stilson, who they converted back to a reliever last year. Here's the write up on him pre-draft. Comments: Thought of mostly as a great bullpen arm heading into this year, Stilson's work as the ace of Texas A&M's rotation initially provided teams interested in Drafting him with some options. Stilson intrigued with two has two plus pitches in his fastball and changeup. In relief, he'd been able to crank it up to 96-98 mph, even touching 99 mph. He was learning to pace himself as a starter, throwing his heater 90-95 mph and sitting comfortably at 91-92 mph. His changeup is plus plus, with late action to it (sink and run). He'll throw it at any point in the count and it's his go-to pitch. Those two pitches alone could make him a future closer. He's got an average curve and slider, serviceable breaking stuff that complements the other two pitches well. His command is a tick below average, but it's not a problem and he's got above-average control. The thought was that the team taking the 20-year-old could send him out as a starter, knowing that shortening him up to a setup or closing role was always an option. But any plan for taking him early in the Draft ended when it was announced he needed surgery to repair a torn labrum.

Naw, the citizens of Montreal are f***ing retards.