I don't disagree. I hoped the Rays would contend all season and just before the deadline it looked like they might make a run (their second half run differential was actually much better in their 32-36 second half) but they just didn't have the talent on the field to do it this year. The real argument here was projections vs. impressions. TL tried to base on argument on his eye test and failed (even though the projection argument was hurt by Cobb, Smyly and Jennings going down, it still did better than the eye test in this case). I honestly don't mind honest opinions and gut feels, but in TL's case he decided to take on a really smart guy in a field that he understands really really well. Then the Pole decided to take up the cause and also use the Rays as an example of why projections don't always work, and also in turn looked like an ass. It's kind of my job to rub his face in the s*** of a thread he started.