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[connorp]

Why u gotta make me get sadder lol.

 

If you Venmo Max $50, he may be willing to blow some sunshine up your backside.

[MikeM3]

Trout was pacing about 6 war last year and had 6 the year before. He broke his hand because he still swings 1000 mph. I'd take Trout way before someone like Bellinger.

[Jays24]

Trout was pacing about 6 war last year and had 6 the year before. He broke his hand because he still swings 1000 mph. I'd take Trout way before someone like Bellinger.

 

Would this even be debatable to anyone? Lol

[Jimcanuck]

Trout is getting close to a DH only, to avoid flare-ups of his incurable back condition. I'd take him at 7/260 over Bellinger at 7/200 but it's closer than you might think

[Jays24]

Trout is getting close to a DH only, to avoid flare-ups of his incurable back condition. I'd take him at 7/260 over Bellinger at 7/200 but it's closer than you might think

 

Just name value alone doesn't make this a discussion. It's not like Trout can't play anymore. There was a reason why the Jays had a separate "Ohtani budget" and while Trout isn't as marketable as Ohtani, you do have to factor stuff like this in.

[Jimcanuck]

Just name value alone doesn't make this a discussion. It's not like Trout can't play anymore. There was a reason why the Jays had a separate "Ohtani budget" and while Trout isn't as marketable as Ohtani, you do have to factor stuff like this in.

 

Trout doesn't come close to Ohtani in name value. He should, but for a lot of reasons he doesn't. His name value is far closer to Bellinger than it is to Ohtani.

[Spanky99]

Anyhow, who really gives a f*** about this signing that is sane. A fatty bat off the bench as a 26th man that rakes, does it really f***ing matter. I doubt these guys make our team aside from a trade for a RHB OF.

[connorp]

Trout doesn't come close to Ohtani in name value. He should, but for a lot of reasons he doesn't. His name value is far closer to Bellinger than it is to Ohtani.

 

Check Ohtanis endorsements and I’ll bet 90% of the money comes from overseas. Those legion of fans are going to have little impact at the gates, or the local television broadcasts. I don’t see how Ohtani brings so much more value than Trout. You don’t know sheeeettt. Trout and Judge are right there with Ohtani for franchise value

[Jimcanuck]

Check Ohtanis endorsements and I’ll bet 90% of the money comes from overseas. Those legion of fans are going to have little impact at the gates, or the local television broadcasts. I don’t see how Ohtani brings so much more value than Trout. You don’t know sheeeettt. Trout and Judge are right there with Ohtani for franchise value

 

Nah, you dumb. Ohtani is in a different stratosphere entirely.

[connorp]

Nah, you dumb. Ohtani is in a different stratosphere entirely.

 

Ok. I’ll wait to read your full article in Forbes before passing judgement.

[Laika]

Baseball is a business and not a simulation. You can’t spit out projected WAR to determine the what Trout is worth. If there’s a tv deal anywhere near the horizon, I bet you Trout for prospects loses you $260m

 

Oh shiiiiiiiiit it's a business!? Since when!!!???

[connorp]

Oh shiiiiiiiiit it's a business!? Since when!!!???

 

I’ve been trying to tell you to move out of your mom’s basement for years. Maybe it’s time.

[TheHurl]

Check Ohtanis endorsements and I’ll bet 90% of the money comes from overseas. Those legion of fans are going to have little impact at the gates, or the local television broadcasts. I don’t see how Ohtani brings so much more value than Trout. You don’t know sheeeettt. Trout and Judge are right there with Ohtani for franchise value

 

Shohei Ohtani, a pitcher and designated hitter for the Los Angeles Angels, makes about $6 million yearly from sponsorships in the United States and Japan.

 

Endorsements:

 

-Asics

 

-Descente

 

-Fanatics

 

-Hugo Boss

 

-JAL Airlines

 

-Oakley

 

-Panini

 

-Seiko

 

-Topps

[connorp]

Shohei Ohtani, a pitcher and designated hitter for the Los Angeles Angels, makes about $6 million yearly from sponsorships in the United States and Japan.

 

Endorsements:

 

-Asics

 

-Descente

 

-Fanatics

 

-Hugo Boss

 

-JAL Airlines

 

-Oakley

 

-Panini

 

-Seiko

 

-Topps

 

Well that would put him a little ahead of Trout and Judge at $4-5m. I thought the number was $40m

[Spanky99]

Well that would put him a little ahead of Trout and Judge at $4-5m. I thought the number was $40m

 

45 from what I read.

[max silver]

If you Venmo Max $50, he may be willing to blow some sunshine up your backside.

 

Seems more like to me that your sorry ass would benefit more from this.

[BTS]

Ryu reportedly back to the KBO for 4 years 12.4M. Biggest contract in league history.

[Jimcanuck]

Ryu reportedly back to the KBO for 4 years 12.4M. Biggest contract in league history.

 

Good for him. Fitting end to an outstanding career.

[Laika]

Kind of a bummer, I was curious to see how good he could be as an old fart throwing 87 mph poo

 

I kind of thought he would be tricky enough to be a solid SP4 doing that

[Jonn]

MLB Free Agency is such a disaster.

 

If they aren’t going to do a salary cap they need to put in a salary floor or something. Force some of these teams to spend some money. It’s embarrassing teams like A’s, Pirates, Rays, Reds, ect get away with this s***. These top players should have homes at market value. And they won’t get it because tons of teams refuse to spend money.

[John_Havok]

MLB Free Agency is such a disaster.

 

If they aren’t going to do a salary cap they need to put in a salary floor or something. Force some of these teams to spend some money. It’s embarrassing teams like A’s, Pirates, Rays, Reds, ect get away with this s***. These top players should have homes at market value. And they won’t get it because tons of teams refuse to spend money.

 

You'll never see a floor without a cap. And before there's a cap, there's probably at least a full season lost due to work stoppage.

 

Free agency in MLB is a pretty good parallel to western economies though. It works great when you're in the 1% at the very top...but is steadily getting worse for anyone below that.

[Laika]

You'll never see a floor without a cap. And before there's a cap, there's probably at least a full season lost due to work stoppage.

 

Free agency in MLB is a pretty good parallel to western economies though. It works great when you're in the 1% at the very top...but is steadily getting worse for anyone below that.

 

How about a soft floor, to mirror the current soft cap?

 

Penalize teams if they don't spend above the soft floor. Make their draft picks and international budgets worse.

[max silver]

You'll never see a floor without a cap. And before there's a cap, there's probably at least a full season lost due to work stoppage.

 

Free agency in MLB is a pretty good parallel to western economies though. It works great when you're in the 1% at the very top...but is steadily getting worse for anyone below that.

 

The MLBPA simply doesn't seem to fully understand how much of a drag the luxury tax has been on their prospective earnings. Most teams are treating it like a defacto salary cap, except the players don't get the benefits of more evenly split revenue sharing with the owners, along with a salary floor that forces the el cheapo owners to spend a minimum of money and forcing the owners to finally open the books. It's like they cut off their nose just to spite their faces.

[Stangstag]

 

Looks like Ryu is going back home

[BTS]

ST games start in two days and you can still assemble a decent team from the FA pool. 70-75 wins?

 

C - Zunino

1B - Belt

2B - Rosario

3B - Chapman

SS - Anderson

CF - Bellinger

LF - Pham

RF - Meadows

DH - Martinez

 

Pina/Cron/Duvall/Solano/Rosario

 

Snell

Montgomery

Loreznen

Clevinger

German

[max silver]

ST games start in two days and you can still assemble a decent team from the FA pool. 70-75 wins?

 

C - Zunino

1B - Belt

2B - Rosario

3B - Chapman

SS - Anderson

CF - Bellinger

LF - Pham

RF - Meadows

DH - Martinez

 

Pina/Cron/Duvall/Solano/Rosario

 

Snell

Montgomery

Loreznen

Clevinger

German

 

There seems to be a lot of smoke around Snell signing with the Yankees. That possibility along with reports that Rodon is hitting 96 MPH in the spring would combine with a dynamite Yankees rotation if these guys can manage to stay healthy.

[Stangstag]

There seems to be a lot of smoke around Snell signing with the Yankees. That possibility along with reports that Rodon is hitting 96 MPH in the spring would combine with a dynamite Yankees rotation if these guys can manage to stay healthy.

 

A lot of smoke? from what I read, they have a standing offer out for him but haven't had much communication over the past few weeks.

 

And yeah Rodon won't stay healthy

[BTS]

There seems to be a lot of smoke around Snell signing with the Yankees. That possibility along with reports that Rodon is hitting 96 MPH in the spring would combine with a dynamite Yankees rotation if these guys can manage to stay healthy.

 

Cole

Snell

Stroman

Rodon

Cortes

---

Schmidt

 

Would have a real chance to be the best rotation in the league if healthy.

[wilko]

Cole

Snell

Stroman

Rodon

Cortes

---

Schmidt

 

Would have a real chance to be the best rotation in the league if healthy.

 

That's a very scary rotation (if healthy).

[glory]

You'll never see a floor without a cap. And before there's a cap, there's probably at least a full season lost due to work stoppage.

 

Free agency in MLB is a pretty good parallel to western economies though. It works great when you're in the 1% at the very top...but is steadily getting worse for anyone below that.

 

Agreed. MLB made like $11b last season. A system like the NBA where there is an even revenue split and a salary floor/cap would actually help the vast majority of players in MLB and only hurt the top 1%. Not sure why that’s such a non starter for the MLBPA. A free market is great for the elite but hurts practically everyone else depending on how owners are feeling in a particular off season. I get they want the Ohtani’s of the world to maximize their value without restrictions but owners are using the current CBT as a cap anyway so it’s not helping the majority of the players they represent.