Ohtani Thread - Special Sheriff's Edition (Update: confirmed going to the Dodgers)

[G-Snarls]

This one hurts but at the same time 700m is insane.

 

Yeah

 

Surprisingly I'm not even mad

 

Just worried about how we're going to fix the offense for 2024 without Ohtani or Soto

[Jays24]

JP Hoornstra absolutely nuked his reputation lmao

 

It's pretty easy to say that he chose the Jays but got a massive last minute offer, which does seem to be the case here.

[Daniel Labude]

Chapman (20M), Bellinger (25M), Teo (20M), Hicks (10M)

 

We can legitimately get all those guys for 5M more than Ohtani who was only DHing for 2024. Let's see what Shatkins can do here...

 

Chapman isn't worth 15

[Jays24]

Chapman isn't worth 15

 

Ohtani isn't worth 70M but when you're the top of your free agency class, s*** happens lol

[max silver]

Chapman (20M), Bellinger (25M), Teo (20M), Hicks (10M)

 

We can legitimately get all those guys for 5M more than Ohtani who was only DHing for 2024. Let's see what Shatkins can do here...

 

The first three would be great but we shall see if the team has that type of overall money available with the "unicorn" budget that Ohtani would have reportedly opened up for them.

[Carlos Danger]

What an fnnnn let down.. We lose Ohtani and Soto… Blue balled too!

[max silver]

Chapman isn't worth 15

 

Come on man, the guy was a 3.5 win player and very well may have hit 4 wins had he not gotten hurt in August.

[Carlos Danger]

f*** those guys and their BS reporting and f***ing Reddit threads!!

[Carlos Danger]

As we kinda all suspected from the start.

[Stangstag]

It's possible he was right, and the Dodgers responded by making an offer no one could top. It seems odd they would table $700 million if Ohtani was always going to sign with them.

 

Yeah seems like Dodgers initial offer was around 500 million, Jays “godfather” offer upped it to 600, and the Dodgers came back with 700.

 

Jays would’ve probably needed to go up to 800 if they wanted Ohtani.

[saskjayfan]

Chapman (20M), Bellinger (25M), Teo (20M), Hicks (10M)

 

We can legitimately get all those guys for 5M more than Ohtani who was only DHing for 2024. Let's see what Shatkins can do here...

 

I think Chapman and Bellinger are going to be massive overpays and the value just isn't there. Bellinger was better last year but advanced stats suggest there was some luck in those numbers. JD Martinez is the first guy I sign. I'd bring Hicks back, but I think it will cost more. Teo might come at a reasonable price.

[philly30]

Yeah seems like Dodgers initial offer was around 500 million, Jays “godfather” offer upped it to 600, and the Dodgers came back with 700.

 

Jays would’ve probably needed to go up to 800 if they wanted Ohtani.

 

That would be beyond insane for a 30 year old coming off TJ

[Stangstag]

On the other hand, it will be very nice to see Ohtani finally get some playoff glory.

 

Really hope the Angels will move Trout while he’s still an elite bat

[Omar]

April 26 and 27 Dodgers are in town. Hope we don't boo Ohtani because it would make us look bush league and petty.

[JaysAllMighty]

Yeah seems like Dodgers initial offer was around 500 million, Jays “godfather” offer upped it to 600, and the Dodgers came back with 700.

 

Jays would’ve probably needed to go up to 800 if they wanted Ohtani.

 

We dodged a bullet

[Stangstag]

That would be beyond insane for a 30 year old coming off TJ

 

I agree. I thought 500 was already crazy too.

[deanmike]

April 26 and 27 Dodgers are in town. Hope we don't boo Ohtani because it would make us look bush league and petty.

 

Sharks fans booed John Tavares lol. If San Jose hockey fans booed John Tavares for not signing with them, Ohtani will inevitably get booed.

[max silver]

We dodged a bullet

 

Absolutely this. There just has to be a point in an auction where you are willing to walk away. The Blue Jays simply don't have the established minor league talent pipeline at this point to continue to surround Ohtani with impact players if they were to outlay this type of cash.

[Jays24]

I think Chapman and Bellinger are going to be massive overpays and the value just isn't there. Bellinger was better last year but advanced stats suggest there was some luck in those numbers. JD Martinez is the first guy I sign. I'd bring Hicks back, but I think it will cost more. Teo might come at a reasonable price.

 

I was just trying to show we can still better spend 70M or so for 2024 when Ohtani was only going to be a DH. I don't trust Bellinger long term and Chapman has shown to be too sporadic with the bat. Let's see what happens though.

[RobinThicc]

Chapman (20M), Bellinger (25M), Teo (20M), Hicks (10M)

 

We can legitimately get all those guys for 5M more than Ohtani who was only DHing for 2024. Let's see what Shatkins can do here...

 

Lol dude, the money was only there for Ohtani. It was a business decision to offer him 600 or whatever.

[G-Snarls]

[thatoneguy]

April 26 and 27 Dodgers are in town. Hope we don't boo Ohtani because it would make us look bush league and petty.

 

We should just boo the Dodgers in general. Teams that try to buy championships are trash.

[BTS]

 

Commissioner's office might have to step in and curb this nonsense.

[Jays24]

Lol dude, the money was only there for Ohtani. It was a business decision to offer him 600 or whatever.

 

Then I'm gonna go cry in the corner if we legitimately don't seriously improve this team

[G-Snarls]

On the other hand, it will be very nice to see Ohtani finally get some playoff glory.

 

Really hope the Angels will move Trout while he’s still an elite bat

 

Next team should probably get him out of CF too

[Delgalladay]

Oh well. We knew he wasn’t ever going to Toronto. Dodgers will regret that contract in a few years.

 

Not sure what the Jays are going to do now. If their only move is re-signing Chapman then it’ll make it easy not to watch next year.

[JaysAllMighty]

 

Isn't that like cheating the system? Why is it even allowed?

[Jimcanuck]

Yeah seems like Dodgers initial offer was around 500 million, Jays “godfather” offer upped it to 600, and the Dodgers came back with 700.

 

Jays would’ve probably needed to go up to 800 if they wanted Ohtani.

 

I see the opposite. Toronto was his preferred destination, and the Dodgers had to pony up considerably more than the Jay's to get him.

[philly30]

We should just boo the Dodgers in general. Teams that try to buy championships are trash.

 

Everyone that has the money to buy a Championship tries to, not like the Jays are bottom of the league in spending, it just matters where you put that money, look at Tampa

[G-Snarls]

Isn't that like cheating the system? Why is it even allowed?

 

Well they have made it so that the luxury tax hit is based on the AAV and not each year's actual salary

 

But yeah, what about deferred post retirement payouts?