GDT: 2/4 Toronto Blue Jays @ Cleveland Guardians (Tuesday 7:10 ET)

[tossingthiscoin]

I didn't expect anything from Varsho, so it's Springer's fault for not driving in any run.

[John_Havok]

Once Springer failed, we all knew the inning was over.

 

As soon and Springer swung through ball 1 ..I knew it was over. Just like Siddall said, evidence of a just an overall bad approach in that situation.

[june.june]

Why JS would plug Varsho at the 5th spot is a total fail.

 

He should be batting ninth or not at all.

 

Davis Schneider should have been in that spot.

Edited August 9, 2023 by june.june
5th spot I meant

[Jonn]

Oh my goodness. The barehand!

[tossingthiscoin]

I just checked our batters' risp stats and found out that Varsho and Springer are the least clutch batters in the lineup lol..

 

So it was all expected by data.

[Jonn]

You can't be walking greyhounds ahead of Ramirez.

[G-Snarls]

As soon and Springer swung through ball 1 ..I knew it was over. Just like Siddall said, evidence of a just an overall bad approach in that situation.

 

According to radio broadcast:

 

Jays rank #1 in OPS with bases empty

 

Jays rank #28 in OPS with RISP

 

Unbelievable

[tossingthiscoin]

Jays rank #1 in OPS with bases empty

 

Jays rank #28 in OPS with RISP

 

Unbelievable

 

But people said hitting with risp is just luck, so I'm trying to convince myself.

[Spanky99]

Glad that was foul, welp.

[Buster]

But people said hitting with risp is just luck, so I'm trying to convince myself.

 

If you don't think the Jays have a case of the yips with RISP, you're crazy. It's not just noise.

[hanton]

Qualify him and you're guaranteed to get him back

 

this is his 1st opportunity at FA so he will most certainly test it, a chance to get a multi year deal.

 

from a Jays perspective the QO of 18M+ plus all the arb this team has to pay in 2024 it will take our payroll near 200M and that's without any further FA signings

 

for these 2 reasons, I think he will be playing else where in 2024

[John_Havok]

According to radio broadcast:

 

Jays rank #1 in OPS with bases empty

 

Jays rank #28 in OPS with RISP

 

Unbelievable

 

Yet the last 10 days it’s been really good. Hitting with RISP is probably not all luck, it’s certainly not all skill. A lot of it is just timing. The other game they went 7-11 or something with RISP. Why so good that game yet so bad the next?

 

It’s just weird.

[G-Snarls]

Espinal watches strike 3

[Jonn]

Why in the actual f*** does Santiago Espinal play. I don't understand it.

[John_Havok]

this is his 1st opportunity at FA so he will most certainly test it, a chance to get a multi year deal.

 

from a Jays perspective the QO of 18M+ plus all the arb this team has to pay in 2024 it will take our payroll near 200M and that's without any further FA signings

 

for these 2 reasons, I think he will be playing else where in 2024

 

Last years QO was 19.65 million. There is 0 chance he gets a QO from the Jays. It would be cheaper to just pick up the option. They’ll decline the option and try to get him back on a 3 year deal for somewhere around 20 million.

 

As good as he has hit this season, he’s still not a guy you break the bank on. The lack of power completely limits the upside to what he is right now. 110~ wrc+. That’s the ceiling. It would be no shock to see him suddenly drop back to 90-100 next season at all.

 

In his favour, he still plays multiple positions half decent, still runs well, and has good PAs the majority of the time. He’s absolutely a guy I want on the team, but anywhere near 10 million per season and its no longer worth the downside risk.

[G-Snarls]

Amazing job Kikuchi

 

Can we please score a few runs now please?!?!?!

[june.june]

Whit is the bright light

 

Bring him in ffs

[polar bear]

De Jong couldn’t hit a bus on the ass with a banjo.

[Daniel Labude]

Belt wanted to contribute to the double play fun

[bronson44]

I don't know why Whit wasn't running that whole AB, especially 3-2

[june.june]

De Jong couldn’t hit a bus on the ass with a banjo.

 

Since the trade, 5 games he played as a Jay, he only had two hits…that’s it.

[Jonn]

I don't know why Whit wasn't running that whole AB, especially 3-2

 

Belt swings and misses a lot. That's why he didn't go 3-2 but he should have been out much earlier in the at-bat.

[hanton]

Last years QO was 19.65 million. There is 0 chance he gets a QO from the Jays. It would be cheaper to just pick up the option. They’ll decline the option and try to get him back on a 3 year deal for somewhere around 20 million.

 

As good as he has hit this season, he’s still not a guy you break the bank on. The lack of power completely limits the upside to what he is right now. 110~ wrc+. That’s the ceiling. It would be no shock to see him suddenly drop back to 90-100 next season at all.

 

In his favour, he still plays multiple positions half decent, still runs well, and has good PAs the majority of the time. He’s absolutely a guy I want on the team, but anywhere near 10 million per season and its no longer worth the downside risk.

 

Yep too much. He's a very skilled baseball player and I think he's going to be good for couple more seasons - but the price has to be right. Definitely want him back as well.

[John_Havok]

I don't know why Whit wasn't running that whole AB, especially 3-2

 

They obviously have something on Bibee that makes them think running isn’t a good idea, especially with Belt at the plate. Belt still has enough swing and miss that they could easily run into a double play.

[John_Havok]

Yep too much. He's a very skilled baseball player and I think he's going to be good for couple more seasons - but the price has to be right. Definitely want him back as well.

 

Maybe 2 years, 16 million plus a club option or something. 3 years guaranteed tops. I wouldn’t want to go past 8 million AAV. Hell even 3/24 and I wouldn’t be super thrilled, but I could probably live with it

[BigCecil]

Kikuchi so legit. Is there a better 5th in baseball right now?

 

Paying him $10M this year.

[june.june]

Kooch in his element so far, badly needing some run support.

 

Any word yet if when they are going to fire Martinez?

[Delgalladay]

I don't know why Whit wasn't running that whole AB, especially 3-2

 

He didn’t attempt to run in the first either, even though the pitcher used both of his throws the first two batters

[Jonn]

Vladdy want to be less frustrated. Pull the f***ing ball.

[JFD]

Why is he trying to slap hit a hanging slider with no strikes lol ffs