General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[Laika]

“Atkins spoke shortly after the roster move was announced and said it was a "baseball decision to make our team better," adding the distraction was something that the club had to factor in.”

 

The team, who has all the reason to claim it was purely a baseball decision, doesn’t do it. Laila knows best. Good name for a tv show actually

 

Oh, clubhouse distractions have nothing to do with baseball now? That's news to me. I thought the people in the clubhouse were the ones who played the game.

[Olerud363]

Truth bomb, Olerud.

 

Not to mention talking smack against FF... one of the best first baseman I've ever witnessed.

 

Another decent but not historic minor league hitter, who was decent but not amazing at 22 then has continued to improve every year peaking at a consistent MVP level. Probably had his best season at age 33.

 

Vlad has more talent than FF. Hopefully he gets it together. One weird thing about Vlad is that he doesn't hit a lot of doubles. I remember Delgado peaked at like 57 doubles 41 homers, and having many seasons close to 40 double/40 homers. That's the type of hitter I thought Vlad would be. .300 year in, year out, 80 extra base hits. Line drives all over the place.

[Olerud363]

Speaking of Jordan Groshans - WOOF.

 

Dude hit well in AAA in 2022 after the trade and earned a cup of coffee but was so bad in 2023 that he didn't even get a day in the bigs. Full year in AAA at 23 years old, 74 wRC+.

 

He has NO power. Kind of shocking when you think about his amateur swing videos.

 

He had some injury in 2019, I can't remember if it was a hand injury.

 

I know everybody is complaining about the Moreno thing, but there were months long stretches after his hand injury where it looked like he had no pop at all. Seems to have recovered.

 

At the same time Kirk has as more talent than Moreno. Moreno could not perform like this with 2 20 pound hams tied to his waste. Kirk can.

 

Problem is if Kirk gets any bigger it's worse than a hand injury, that belly has to get in the way of the power stroke. If Kirk can lose even 20 pounds he is better than Moreno. So this whole discussion is a weight loss discussion.

 

Can these new drugs help? Or do they have side effects like mess with your metabolism and brain so are too risky.,

[Spanky99]

So Shapiro says Ross is back, lol. Pathetic.

[wilko]

Anthony Bass not happy with the FO, either...

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/anthony-bass-says-release-from-blue-jays-was-not-a-baseball-decision/

 

Another poorly handled situation by Shatkins. Bass is a dbag though.

[L54]

Lmao this woman asking Shapiro about Ross’ trades can’t even say Moreno’s name

 

Reporter: I’m sure you’re watching Moreeno in the playoffs

 

Shapiro: Who?

 

Long pause…

 

Reporter: Gabe

 

Total lack of professionalism and preparedness

[connorp]

So Shapiro says Ross is back, lol.

 

I assumed he’d be back if they told him the manager would be back for sure. It was apparent they were talking ahead to 2024.

 

As someone said, they have the benefit of corporate overlords that aren’t thirsty for a WS, or deeper playoff run.

[connorp]

Oh, clubhouse distractions have nothing to do with baseball now? That's news to me. I thought the people in the clubhouse were the ones who played the game.

 

Quality gymnastics

[deanmike]

I knew this f***er would voluntarily bring up the renos. f*** off Shapiro.

[Spanky99]

Shapiro's pulling all the strings with these puppets, lol.

[Stangstag]

So Shapiro says Ross is back, lol. Pathetic.

 

Gross. Embarrassing.

 

The sideshow is gonna be front and center this season, jist watch.

[Jonn]

“Body of work is undeniable”

 

0-6 in the Playoffs.

[deanmike]

“Body of work is undeniable”

 

0-6 in the Playoffs.

 

He's technically not wrong, 0-6 in the playoffs is undeniably a dogshit body of work.

[Jonn]

Another poorly handled situation by Shatkins. Bass is a dbag though.

 

Dbag sure. But Liberal Toronto getting a victory is not something we should be happy about. I wish Anthony Bass was only cut for Baseball reasons. But anyone with a brain knows that’s not true.

[BatFlip]

Are we still talking about Bass? He was garbage this year and a constant distraction. Hopefully he's somewhere with his wife picking some popcorn up off the floor.

[L54]

Shapiro is 100x more relatable than Atkins

[hanton]

Lmao this woman asking Shapiro about Ross’ trades can’t even say Moreno’s name

 

Reporter: I’m sure you’re watching Moreeno in the playoffs

 

Shapiro: Who?

 

Long pause…

 

Reporter: Gabe

 

Total lack of professionalism and preparedness

 

did you catch that too? UNBELIEVABLE

[L54]

did you catch that too? UNBELIEVABLE

 

So embarrassing for whoever that was

[BatFlip]

did you catch that too? Unbelievable

 

lmao

[Sorrow]

It's the worst Toronto Blue Jays reporter (and most of them f***ing suck) Rosie DiManno.

[L54]

It's the worst Toronto Blue Jays reporter (and most of them f***ing suck) Rosie DiManno.

 

Thank you. Time to troll

[Spanky99]

It's the worst Toronto Blue Jays reporter (and most of them f***ing suck) Rosie DiManno.

 

Is that who it was, she's a fluff piece writer, terrible.

[Spanky99]

Shapiro is 100x more relatable than Atkins

 

Yeah, he nailed that presser. I'm just pissed that Ross made it through this shitshow.

[Laika]

So Shapiro said nothing of note, other than confirming that Rossy will return?

[Daniel Labude]

Vlad was 1-8.

 

Fans are demanding both players be cut, there is a hug watch at the stadium. If you can't hit better than Vlad in the playoffs you don't deserve to be on a MLB team

[Spanky99]

Is Shi not right, what's wrong with him?

[Daniel Labude]

So Shapiro said nothing of note, other than confirming that Rossy will return?

 

So continuing with their norm

[Jays24]

“Body of work is undeniable”

 

0-6 in the Playoffs.

 

0 playoff wins in an expanded playoff era while having a bottom half farm system before the Vlad/Bo extensions. Can't believe no one followed up on that pathetic statement.

[Sorrow]

So Shapiro said nothing of note, other than confirming that Rossy will return?

 

Payroll shouldn't be going down, they're not going to rebuild this winter, reading between the lines we'll likely see new hitting coaches brought on.

 

When he was asked about Bichette and Guerrero extensions his answers was more about staying competitive and sustaining the window to win so it wouldn't surprise me to see the possibility of them being traded in the next 12-15 months.

[Jays24]

Why is Shi speaking like he's being held hostage? Loll