Around Baseball 2023

[Jimcanuck]

He's never playing in MLB again regardless of what happens from here on

 

Hard to see him ever getting a US visa, regardless of what MLB does.

[The Cats Ass]

Not devastated. Have had plenty of time to process. Hope he has good lawyers.

 

I’d probably move like a 5th round milb pick for him in the DDL if you want.

[Laika]

Hard to see him ever getting a US visa, regardless of what MLB does.

 

Yeah I don't think MLB even needs to suspend him

They will but even if the guy dodges criminal charges and gets a visa... no team is signing him

[Jimcanuck]

"Following the questioning, both Franco and the mother of the minor who made the allegation were detained and they are expected to be held for 48 hours."

 

The mother, too?

[RobinThicc]

Was mom trying to pimp out her daughter

[Krylian]

Was mom trying to pimp out her daughter

 

Mom saw dollar signs

[Pendleton]

[BigCecil]

12 innings. 0.3 fWAR. That's a damn fine pen arm. Take that up to 60 innings, which is reasonable, 1.5 fWAR. expecting 1.5-2 wins from a reliever is never a bad thing.

 

I suspect people are getting hung up on the order in which the signings are happening without taking into account where the Jays are on win curve.

 

Like, they're worried that signing IKF before signing a LF, 3B and DH must mean they are no longer looking for them or something. It's a pretty confusing rationale.

 

No, I don't give a s*** about the order of signings. Just the total projected WAR value add. I think they are still looking to add a bat and working on a major trade.

 

Extrapolating '23 WAR calculations for a RP with their inherent volatility, especially one coming off major arm surgery, is risky. I'll make you a friendly wager between a couple Albertans for $100 we don't see 1.6 fWAR from Green in 2024. (that was his '21 total)

[Spanky__99]

No, I don't give a s*** about the order of signings. Just the total projected WAR value add. I think they are still looking to add a bat and working on a major trade.

 

Extrapolating '23 WAR calculations for a RP with their inherent volatility, especially one coming off major arm surgery, is risky. I'll make you a friendly wager between a couple Albertans for $100 we don't see 1.6 fWAR from Green in 2024. (that was his '21 total)

 

I like this call out, bet. Interesting to follow.

[max silver]

No, I don't give a s*** about the order of signings. Just the total projected WAR value add. I think they are still looking to add a bat and working on a major trade.

 

Extrapolating '23 WAR calculations for a RP with their inherent volatility, especially one coming off major arm surgery, is risky. I'll make you a friendly wager between a couple Albertans for $100 we don't see 1.6 fWAR from Green in 2024. (that was his '21 total)

 

That doesn't feel like a particularly fair bet if each of you are receiving equal odds. For instance Josh Hader is only projected for 0.9 FWAR by Steamer.

[Brownie19]

No, I don't give a s*** about the order of signings. Just the total projected WAR value add. I think they are still looking to add a bat and working on a major trade.

 

Extrapolating '23 WAR calculations for a RP with their inherent volatility, especially one coming off major arm surgery, is risky. I'll make you a friendly wager between a couple Albertans for $100 we don't see 1.6 fWAR from Green in 2024. (that was his '21 total)

 

Not to interfere, but Green pitched 83 innings in 2021. Unlikely he approaches that this year. I would suggest the O/U for Green might be 1 or 1.2 WAR.

[jaysblue]

No, I don't give a s*** about the order of signings. Just the total projected WAR value add. I think they are still looking to add a bat and working on a major trade.

 

Extrapolating '23 WAR calculations for a RP with their inherent volatility, especially one coming off major arm surgery, is risky. I'll make you a friendly wager between a couple Albertans for $100 we don't see 1.6 fWAR from Green in 2024. (that was his '21 total)

 

I would bet the under 1.5 fWAR with Green next season.

[jaysblue]

 

Juan Pierre was a fun player. Slap hitting corner OF who could steal a ton of bases. As a kid in the early 2000's always liked him. Had some great years with the Marlins!

[Spanky__99]

I would bet the under 1.5 fWAR with Green next season.

 

Well duh, lmao.

[John_Havok]

Well duh, lmao.

 

It’s not super cut and dried. Every season he’s been fully healthy he’s out it 1.6 or higher.

 

If Green is healthy for 70+ innings, I don’t think 1.5 is a crazy expectation.

[Spanky__99]

It’s not super cut and dried. Every season he’s been fully healthy he’s out it 1.6 or higher.

 

If Green is healthy for 70+ innings, I don’t think 1.5 is a crazy expectation.

 

Okay, so bet him, tallywagger!

 

For the record, I believe Green will crush his projection, Giolito, nah, he's got far more red flags as Laika brought up, Green hasn't lost a thing, stuff wise.