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I hate everyone at this point..the coaches, the front office. Everyone. Weird how Montoyo is actually the one I hate least at this point, I feel sorry for the guy.
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I hate everyone at this point..the coaches, the front office. Everyone. Weird how Montoyo is actually the one I hate least at this point, I feel sorry for the guy.

 

Lol. I felt like this this morning. This game has only made it worse. It's Happy Inflamed Over Reaction GDT.

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Who gets cut first...Ryu, Kikuchi, Berrios, the entire pen, Montoyo, Walker

 

Ryu had TJS. He's thrown his last pitch with the Jays.

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The good thing about the Jays missing the playoffs is firing Montoyo.

 

Fangraphs still has the Jays at 94.8% to make the playoffs. After today probably like 93ish %

 

Definitely looks bleak right now but there’s lots of ball to play and trades to be made

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The good thing about the Jays missing the playoffs is firing Montoyo.

 

Oh yea, that will make a big difference. 7 years of ineptitude in pitching dev will be solved by firing Montoyo.

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Ryu had TJS. He's thrown his last pitch with the Jays.

 

Yeah the media is all hesitant to say it, but he’s likely done. Wouldn’t be surprised if he chose to go back to Korea for his final few years

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Ryu had TJS. He's thrown his last pitch with the Jays.

 

I wonder if they bother with the time/effort of rehab process. I mean I guess you on the chance he comes back on 1 year deal or something

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Yeah the media is all hesitant to say it, but he’s likely done. Wouldn’t be surprised if he chose to go back to Korea for his final few years

 

Are we allowed to say this was a bad signing? Jays looked at the medicals and gave him 80 mil. Would probably have been cooked after his first year if 2020 was a full season.

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I wonder if they bother with the time/effort of rehab process. I mean I guess you on the chance he comes back on 1 year deal or something

 

I think they have to, unless he just wants to call it a career and go back to Korea like Stangstag suggests

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Are we allowed to say this was a bad signing? Jays looked at the medicals and gave him 80 mil. Would probably have been cooked after his first year if 2020 was a full season.

 

4.5 fWAR for 80M. It's weird to say because he was so good in 2020, but the signing really didn't work out at all. Basically the exact scenario the Dodgers were worried about played out.

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Oh yea, that will make a big difference. 7 years of ineptitude in pitching dev will be solved by firing Montoyo.

I'm sorry. I just can't salivate at Montoyo getting fired. That will make the season better if they somehow miss the playoffs.

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Shapiro better start to consider his own job security and replace Atkins with a competent league wide respected GM and let him do his thing and don't be so involved, except in the draft. Let the new GM construct his own coaching staff.
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4.5 fWAR for 80M. It's weird to say because he was so good in 2020, but the signing really didn't work out at all. Basically the exact scenario the Dodgers were worried about played out.

 

About the best news was we only had to pay him about 7 and not 20 for the short year he was great.

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It’s been a disappointing stretch but the doom and gloom losers here need to chill

 

Well, I mean it’s almost the half way point and and there’s some disasters going on. At some point it’s objectively valid to start questioning some of the movies

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About the best news was we only had to pay him about 7 and not 20 for the short year he was great.

 

Even in the short year he was out of gas by the playoffs. Guy's arm was held together by glue when they signed him.

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Even in the short year he was out of gas by the playoffs. Guy's arm was held together by glue when they signed him.

 

I agree if that was a full year it probably would not have ended well. As it was, he got lit up by the Rays in the 1 game WC that year.

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Gage & Castillo have been a revelation with all the s*** show this pitching has been elsewhere.
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Well, I mean it’s almost the half way point and and there’s some disasters going on. At some point it’s objectively valid to start questioning some of the movies

 

I’m not saying not question any moves, some here are acting like it’s over, relax it’s a long season

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At what point do you not commit to making a deep playoff run though?

As in, get into playoffs and then let Jesus take the wheel (like Braves/Nationals/w.e) rather than do everything in your power to win the WS?

 

The way its been going, I feel we're still ways off and just need to slow the f*** down instead of burning the farm.

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I listen to a ton of fantasy stuff because I play a lot of dynasty. It’s usually analytical type stuff.

 

I NEVER hear us mentioned as a ‘smart’ pitching dev team. We aren’t mentioned as dumb (they usually don’t talk about those teams because they don’t want to burn sources) but we are never mentioned as cutting edge.

 

I used to write that off somewhat but I’m starting to think that we are dumb on that side or at least we are just average. It’s the most important thing in baseball. It’s the thing that extends windows. If you are going to be good for a long time, it’s all pitching dev.

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