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Little deeper than a quick check and you’d see really he’s the same hitter as last year. He’s just faced lefties at a lesser rate. If you give him the next 25 ABs against lefties to balance out the ratios, his numbers are prob worse this year.

 

The responsible thing to do with defense is use a bigger sample size instead of just saying he’s better at fielding using the small sample size of this season.

 

He’s the same as last year. Just used a little better

 

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a single..... with a drawn in infield? really? LOL

 

Danny Jansen's last 10 games... PA 38, 13% BB, 10% K, .313/421/531, ISO 219, wOBA .415, wRC+ 177...

 

Really??? LOL

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Danny Jansen's last 10 games... PA 38, 13% BB, 10% K, .313/421/531, ISO 219, wOBA .415, wRC+ 177...

 

Really??? LOL

 

why is moreno here then?

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Jansen wRC+ up to 125

 

Is there a scenario where Jansen, Kirk, Moreno are all on the club in 2023?

 

Moreno needs another position

 

This is too obvious, but Jansen for Pablo Lopez or Trevor Rogers makes an awful lot of sense for both teams. Add prospects to either side as necessary. Next year you have Kirk do the same C/DH role, with Moreno stepping into Jansen's role.

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Jansen wRC+ up to 125

 

Is there a scenario where Jansen, Kirk, Moreno are all on the club in 2023?

 

Moreno needs another position

 

Trade Moreno. He has the most value and our Catching situation is already fantastic.

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This is too obvious, but Jansen for Pablo Lopez or Trevor Rogers makes an awful lot of sense for both teams. Add prospects to either side as necessary. Next year you have Kirk do the same C/DH role, with Moreno stepping into Jansen's role.

 

You'd have to add Martinez to that at least.

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Given his speed, LF is possible

 

I like 2B & 3B. I would have him work on those IF positions in the Offseason, and work on his launch angle and exit velos.

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I like 2B & 3B. I would have him work on those IF positions in the Offseason, and work on his launch angle and exit velos.

 

Moreno might be the best of all three at catcher but Jansen and Kirk are already an amazing tandem. I get how tempting it is to move Moreno off of C...but man is that a tough call. I think the move that makes the most sense is to have him take a lot of reps at 3rd base in the offseason. Then if he looks comfortable there it makes the decision to extend Chapman easier. In a couple seasons you maybe move Bichette if it looks like he is a high priced ticket the team can't afford, move Espy to SS, Biggio at 2nd and Moreno at 3rd. But at the end of the day Moreno might be the best catcher we have for the next 10 years. Damned good problem to have!

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Moreno might be the best of all three at catcher but Jansen and Kirk are already an amazing tandem. I get how tempting it is to move Moreno off of C...but man is that a tough call. I think the move that makes the most sense is to have him take a lot of reps at 3rd base in the offseason. Then if he looks comfortable there it makes the decision to extend Chapman easier. In a couple seasons you maybe move Bichette if it looks like he is a high priced ticket the team can't afford, move Espy to SS, Biggio at 2nd and Moreno at 3rd. But at the end of the day Moreno might be the best catcher we have for the next 10 years. Damned good problem to have!

 

Maybe trade Kirk while his value is high? Hard to see him ever playing better than he is right now, and he could potentially fetch a very nice corner OF or pitcher with control. I’d say Kirk has the highest value of the 3 right now and he’s the most likely to fall apart quickly.

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Moreno might be the best of all three at catcher but Jansen and Kirk are already an amazing tandem. I get how tempting it is to move Moreno off of C...but man is that a tough call. I think the move that makes the most sense is to have him take a lot of reps at 3rd base in the offseason. Then if he looks comfortable there it makes the decision to extend Chapman easier. In a couple seasons you maybe move Bichette if it looks like he is a high priced ticket the team can't afford, move Espy to SS, Biggio at 2nd and Moreno at 3rd. But at the end of the day Moreno might be the best catcher we have for the next 10 years. Damned good problem to have!

 

Maybe trade Kirk while his value is high? Hard to see him ever playing better than he is right now, and he could potentially fetch a very nice corner OF or pitcher with control. I’d say Kirk has the highest value of the 3 right now and he’s the most likely to fall apart quickly.

 

No, no, no, no...

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You'd have to add Martinez to that at least.

 

It's a no for me then, unless you mean Gabriel. Jansen and Lopez have the same amount of control and are similarly talented. Excellent defensive catchers with a good stick don't grow on trees.

 

Rogers has more control, but this was a lost season for him. I'd add a bit more if the FO believes in him, but certainly not Orelvis.

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It's a no for me then, unless you mean Gabriel. Jansen and Lopez have the same amount of control and are similarly talented. Excellent defensive catchers with a good stick don't grow on trees.

 

Rogers has more control, but this was a lost season for him. I'd add a bit more if the FO believes in him, but certainly not Orelvis.

 

Orelvis has dropped out of many top 100 lists his value has taken a hit, as well. If you're out you're out, but that's what it's likely going to take.

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Orelvis has dropped out of many top 100 lists his value has taken a hit, as well. If you're out you're out, but that's what it's likely going to take.

 

I get that he also has a lot of flaws, but 29 home runs at age 20 in AA is approaching 80 grade power. That's a slam dunk top 100 prospect.

 

I think you undervalue Jansen or overvalue Lopez if you think we have to add a top 100 prospect, but I'll agree to disagree.

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You'd have to add Martinez to that at least.

 

Lopez and Rogers have the value of Otto Lopez right now...both have been horrible large chunks of the year

 

Jansen for either might be an overpay

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