King Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 I mean, it should be noted the girl enjoyed the encounter just as much. So it’s basically just judging a perversion. Like Mark Albert type stuff dressing up in women’s underwear to get rough, a guy wearing a diaper and doing whatever that entails..heck even some people view homosexuality as a sick perversion Oh, really?
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 I mean, it should be noted the girl enjoyed the encounter just as much. So it’s basically just judging a perversion. Like Mark Albert type stuff dressing up in women’s underwear to get rough, a guy wearing a diaper and doing whatever that entails..heck even some people view homosexuality as a sick perversion I judge his specific perversion pretty harshly.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 It’s all sick stuff. Not anything I’d be into but I’m a good Muslim that doesn’t believe in premarital sex so what do I know
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 I judge his specific perversion pretty harshly. Understandable. Many do..deservingly
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 That song is not good and I would have preferred to not hear it.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 That song is not good and I would have preferred to not hear it. Listen to the second one I posted there. So hilarious.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Oh, really? Per her texts, yes. Can’t debate that, only if she really meant them or not
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 If anyone can listen to this Across Time and Space song start to finish, holy s*** you have ears of steel or whatever.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 I think it was “I’ve never been so turned on in my life”?
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Listen to the second one I posted there. So hilarious. That might legit be the worst thing I've ever heard.
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 I think it was “I’ve never been so turned on in my life”? The girl thinks shes getting some mild rough play and next thing you know she's waking up from being unconscious with a wiener in her ass and bruises all over her body, and then went to the hospital. What part of this do you think turned her on? She was very obviously distraught.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 That might legit be the worst thing I've ever heard. I used to run a record label, and some of the submissions we got were worse than this, but not MUCH worse than this.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 The girl thinks shes getting some mild rough play and next thing you know she's waking up from being unconscious with a wiener in her ass and bruises all over her body, and then went to the hospital. What part of this do you think turned her on? She was very obviously distraught. Well Laila’s objection was seemingly limited to a guy getting hard from smacking a girl around and I was merely pointing out some girls get off from the same. This girl clearly did, whether a line was later crossed is another point of contention I guess
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Also “mild rough play” typically doesn’t mean getting off by being choked out to the point of unconsciousness. Stop pretending this is some soccer mom that wanted to experiment. This girl is into sick s*** regardless if he went past a line
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Also “mild rough play” typically doesn’t mean getting off by being choked out to the point of unconsciousness. Stop pretending this is some soccer mom that wanted to experiment. This girl is into sick s*** regardless if he went past a line What the f*** is this? Are we victim shaming now?
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 What the f*** is this? Are we victim shaming now? The whole conversation around her saying she’s never been so turned on in her life… that was from getting choked out and then Bauer asked what got her off, when the lights were going out or when they came back on
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 It’s not victim shaming. Would you classify that as ‘mild rough play”?
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 The whole conversation around her saying she’s never been so turned on in her life… that was from getting choked out and then Bauer asked what got her off, when the lights were going out or when they came back on True. She does say that it would feel good to wake up from it implying she wants to be choked out to unconsciousness.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 It’s not victim shaming. Would you classify that as ‘mild rough play”? Rule of thumb is anything that doesn't leave bruising or welts. Slapping and light choking and hair pulling, spitting, etc can be mild/lite rough play within specified boundaries. I've done that kinda stuff by request, even though it's not really my bag. Closed fist punching anywhere on the body is definitely well beyond accepted rough play. Even if she gave consent for that kind of violence, Bauer should have had the common sense to not go that far when he is a well-known public figure. Seems extremely reckless. Still, the possibility remains in my mind that she requested the former, faked the latter, and is now using vague text messages as ammo for a payday.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Rule of thumb is anything that doesn't leave bruising or welts. Slapping and light choking and hair pulling, spitting, etc can be mild/lite rough play within specified boundaries. I've done that kinda stuff by request, even though it's not really my bag. Closed fist punching anywhere on the body is definitely well beyond accepted rough play. Even if she gave consent for that kind of violence, Bauer should have had the common sense to not go that far when he is a well-known public figure. Seems extremely reckless. Still, the possibility remains in my mind that she requested the former, faked the latter, and is now using vague text messages as ammo for a payday. Yeah he really should’ve found a fiancé or wife that was into all that too. Prob if he committed to this girl as a legit gf we may not even have this situation
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 True. She does say that it would feel good to wake up from it implying she wants to be choked out to unconsciousness. It's not even implied. She specifically tells him "that was a game changer" and that she's never been more turned on in her life. He asks her to clarify if she means "when you were going out or when you woke up" and she confirms "going outttt." Trevor Bauer is a f***ing douchebag and a moron but the point of contention here that his side will probably present is that she explicitly told him she enjoyed being choked out to the point of unconsciousness. Her side will likely argue that the next time they met, they agreed on a safe word, and he "put her out" before she could use it. Now, there's a bit of an oxymoron here in establishing a safe word while agreeing on activities that can make someone unconscious, but what I don't understand is why this f***ing troglodyte wound up wailing on her and scratching her up. I think that's where the case will favor the girl. Even if she was into choking (a lot of people are, for whatever reason) and she was into it to the point of unconsciousness, a guy punching the hell out of her while she's unconscious and penetrating her anally without asking for permission is a lot further than that. I haven't commented on this whole thing at all up until now and I won't comment on it again but from my perspective here is my (probably ********) guess on what happened based on the information we have so far: Bauer and the victim engaged in overly rough play that resulted in him choking her till she passed out. She liked the loss of control and the feeling of blacking out so she told him she wanted more, but she was also cognizant of the fact that rough play to that extent can be risky, so she sought to establish a safe word. The girl, being an idiot, didn't realize a safe word is useless when you're unconscious, and Bauer, being a f***ing nut job, got his little peepee so hard from putting her out the second time that he lost control and beat the s*** out of her for some reason. TL's premature and totally worthless verdict: Regardless of the ground rules and understanding established beforehand, Bauer is a depraved and sick individual that should be punished for a) taking it too far, without permission, with someone who was unconscious, and being a f***ing moron. Even if he didn't punch her, scratch her and likely anally rape her, the idea that he's dumb enough to engage in choking a random to the point of unconsciousness, when that activity alone can easily result in the person accidentally dying, tells me he's too dumb to function as a regular member of society.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Innocent until proven guilty doesn't exist anymore in the era of social media. Maybe Bauer is guilty of going too far, or maybe she's lying through her teeth trying to get a payout after being scorned by a famous athlete. Nobody here knows for sure which is true, but certain posters are acting like they do know. They don't.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Limiting it to just the anal sex, should that not be specified by partners beforehand (what’s not allowed). I’m obviously not a lawyer but we can establish for a fact that she consented to being choked out, we can clearly infer she was ok with him performing sex acts on her while she was out..so should he need verbal permission to have anal sex? I would think not. Not sure legally
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Innocent until proven guilty doesn't exist anymore in the era of social media. Maybe Bauer is guilty of going too far, or maybe she's lying through her teeth trying to get a payout after being scorned by a famous athlete. Nobody here knows for sure which is true, but certain posters are acting like they do know. They don't. people have passed judgement before a review for thousands of years. social media just gives a bigger platform for human behavour, sick, wrong, right or whatever
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Limiting it to just the anal sex, should that not be specified by partners beforehand (what’s not allowed). I’m obviously not a lawyer but we can establish for a fact that she consented to being choked out, we can clearly infer she was ok with him performing sex acts on her while she was out..so should he need verbal permission to have anal sex? I would think not. Not sure legally you can't make that inference, holy f*** do you have a share of bauer in fantasy baseball
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 you can't make that inference, holy f*** do you have a share of bauer in fantasy baseball Why not Jim? You would prob know better than me but as he’s plowing her and she goes unconscious, he’s supposed to all the sudden stop and wait for her to come to?… that doesn’t seem like how it works in those games
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 he’s plowing her and she goes unconscious, he’s supposed to all the sudden stop and wait for her to come to? YES! The opposite of "coming to" is death!!!!
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 do you have a share of bauer in fantasy baseball I never liked Bauer as a person and unfortunately just picked up a share of him in a dynasty league. I can separate the person from the numbers but I can't accept an elite asset going to zero!
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 YES! The opposite of "coming to" is death!!!! Well I don’t think that’s the case. Her objection seems to be anal sex rather than that he continued to have sex with her.
Blaine Bullard Dunedin Blue Jays - A OF In Thursday's doubleheader, the 19-year-old went 5-for-8. He was 3-for-5 with two doubles in the first game and 2-for-3 in the second game. Explore Blaine Bullard News >
Recommended Posts