AL Wild Card Round: Toronto Blue Jays vs Tampa Bay Rays

[Krylian]

f*** Teo. Protect the strike zone

[Deadpool]

I f***ing hate the green light 3-0.

[Krylian]

Panik the hero?

[DigitalRock]

He should have walked really bad AB.

[BTS]

And how many times has Shoemaker gone 3 scoreless and gave up runs in the next innings? Also maybe shoe pitched the way he did as he knew he was only going three. Part of game planning is actually following the plan. Ray got caught by a good hitter. End of story

 

Yeah, we've all seen back end starters get left out to go 5-6 innings because they're the 'hot hand' and then get absolutely bombed eventually. I honestly can't believe that there's this much bellyaching over a strategy to pull someone like Matt Shoemaker before he gives up runs, and not after.

 

The pitching plan worked today. They squeezed 8 innings of 3-run ball out of pitchers that, frankly, aren't very good. They got shut down by elite pitching and great defense.

[rydermike]

Panik should've let that hit him

[Deadpool]

f*** that game. f*** the Trop. f*** the Rays.

[Krylian]

Let's see how clutch Ryu is

[Pinkfloid]

Tough loss but if they hit the ball hard like this tomorrow they'll start finding some green. Hoping Ryu has a great game and then anything-goes in game 3.

[connorp]

Yeah, we've all seen back end starters get left out to go 5-6 innings because they're the 'hot hand' and then get absolutely bombed eventually. I honestly can't believe that there's this much bellyaching over a strategy to pull someone like Matt Shoemaker before he gives up runs, and not after.

 

The pitching plan worked today. They squeezed 8 innings of 3-run ball out of pitchers that, frankly, aren't very good. They got shut down by elite pitching and great defense.

 

You’re acting like there’s no middle ground. Like first base runner they allow, yank him

[dineke]

Good game by the jays. Faced great pitching and and got unlucky on a few hard hit balls. oh well

[Ex Player]

Tough loss but if they hit the ball hard like this tomorrow they'll start finding some green. Hoping Ryu has a great game and then anything-goes in game 3

Thats the spirit

[DigitalRock]

Yeah, we've all seen back end starters get left out to go 5-6 innings because they're the 'hot hand' and then get absolutely bombed eventually. I honestly can't believe that there's this much bellyaching over a strategy to pull someone like Matt Shoemaker before he gives up runs, and not after.

 

The pitching plan worked today. They squeezed 8 innings of 3-run ball out of pitchers that, frankly, aren't very good. They got shut down by elite pitching and great defense.

There is a middle ground....well never agree on this.

[connorp]

I f***ing hate the green light 3-0.

 

Meh bottom of the lineup coming up, great pitching, haven’t had many hits on the day... I don’t think it was a bad try

[DigitalRock]

Why are you guys still arguing about pitching? 1 run isn’t going to win a game.

 

people can discuss more then one, despite losing the game due to a lack if Offense.. its not an either/or situation.

[JFD]

Rays got lucky with all the liners hit right at them.. typical

[bones10]

Can't be too upset about that loss, they were in it all the way, still have ryu going tomorrow.

[DigitalRock]

Can't be too upset about that loss, they were in it all the way, still have ryu going tomorrow.

Win tomorrow, all this goes away.

[DigitalRock]

The rats let Snell go over 5 plus why not 3?

[BTS]

The rats let Snell go over 5 plus why not 3?

 

Blake Snell is vastly better pitcher than Matt Shoemaker.

[Jays24]

The rats let Snell go over 5 plus why not 3?

 

Clearly because we were in a rush to get to Cole. If Rays had him, theyd do the same thing too lol

[Jays24]

Blake Snell is vastly better pitcher than Matt Shoemaker.

 

their bullpen is also a lot more proven than ours.

[DigitalRock]

Blake Snell is vastly better pitcher than Matt Shoemaker.

 

Shoe was dealing and was only at 35, snell being better does not change the point. I mean why rush you get to Ray and cole who are worse?

[BTS]

their bullpen is also a lot more proven than ours.

 

You guys are second guessing s pitching strategy that resulted in the team getting 8 innings of 3-run ball in a playoff game started by Matt f***ing Shoemaker. The plan worked.

[BTS]

Shoe was dealing and was only at 35, snell being better does not change the point. I mean why rush you get to Ray and cole who are worse?

 

It's not clear at all that Cole and Ray are worse than Shoemaker if all three are fresh. It's definitely not clear that Ray and Cole fresh are worse than Shoemaker second time through.

[DigitalRock]

You guys are second guessing s pitching strategy that resulted in the team getting 8 innings of 3-run ball in a playoff game started by Matt f***ing Shoemaker. The plan worked.

 

Batting teo 7th worked too doesn't mean it's not stupid.

[dineke]

Charlie is just managing by what the computer says... and frankly that's what I've wanted since Cito was stilll managing this team so whatever.

[connorp]

You guys are second guessing s pitching strategy that resulted in the team getting 8 innings of 3-run ball in a playoff game started by Matt f***ing Shoemaker. The plan worked.

 

Doesn’t matter. If Ray was the one that started and was dealing, people would get pissed that Matt f***ing Shoemaker was the one that came in. These guys all suck and so when someone is pitching well, give them at least a little rope if they’re dealing. At least first sing of trouble.

 

As someone else, there should be middle ground between sabr and old school. A pitcher “having it” or “not having it” one day is a real thing even if you can’t put it in a stat

[DigitalRock]

It's not clear at all that Cole and Ray are worse than Shoemaker if all three are fresh. It's definitely not clear that Ray and Cole fresh are worse than Shoemaker second time through.

 

Maybe your right still not a fan but I get the logic.

[connorp]

If you’re in the NBA and you a s***** player that’s having a really great shooting night, so you sub him out for another s***** player. Obviously not a perfect analogy but as general point