Toronto acquires Vogelbach for cash

[BlueRocky]

I didn't mean that kind of lineup? I meant literally standing beside each other...all wearing T-shirts that say 'I'm a Professional Athlete'

 

We call that an offensive line in football.

[Krylian]

We call that an offensive line in football.

 

It's offensive for baseball too.

[Deadpool]

I didn't mean that kind of lineup? I meant literally standing beside each other...all wearing T-shirts that say 'I'm a Professional Athlete'

 

Rowdy really would need to let his hair grow out a bit to complete the look though...

[wilko]

Vogelbach > Tellez

[Jonn]

The only comparison between Tellez and Vogelbach is they are both big and both hit left handed. Dramatically different hitters. Vogelbach walks a ton and doesn’t chase. Rowdy never walks and chases everything.

[Laika]

The only comparison between Tellez and Vogelbach is they are both big and both hit left handed. Dramatically different hitters. Vogelbach walks a ton and doesn’t chase. Rowdy never walks and chases everything.

 

Mostly true. Rowdy is making more contact this year though so his K/BB is significantly better.

 

Vogelbach is actually extremely passive. Fans of the M's will probably tell you he is too passive.

 

It's interesting because there is some utility to being aggressive. Bo Bichette is extremely aggressive and Cavan Biggio is the opposite and both are quite good. Tellez and Vogelbach are similar to those two when it comes to some plate discipline stats.

[saskjayfan]

The only comparison between Tellez and Vogelbach is they are both big and both hit left handed. Dramatically different hitters. Vogelbach walks a ton and doesn’t chase. Rowdy never walks and chases everything.

 

Doesn't that concern you? Vogelbach doesn't swing at bad pitches and he's a league average hitter. He doesn't have a very good swing. Rowdy swings at a bunch of garbage and is a league average hitter. He has a much more athletic swing. If Rowdy can develop some better plate discipline he could be a great hitter. I think it's going to be harder for Vogelbach to be much better than league average.

[Jonn]

Doesn't that concern you? Vogelbach doesn't swing at bad pitches and he's a league average hitter. He doesn't have a very good swing. Rowdy swings at a bunch of garbage and is a league average hitter. He has a much more athletic swing. If Rowdy can develop some better plate discipline he could be a great hitter. I think it's going to be harder for Vogelbach to be much better than league average.

 

Oh believe me I’m not even remotely excited about the trade. I just think its a lazy comparison. The only way I’m looking at it is hes a much better pinch hitter option then Joe Panik.

[wilko]

Doesn't that concern you? Vogelbach doesn't swing at bad pitches and he's a league average hitter. He doesn't have a very good swing. Rowdy swings at a bunch of garbage and is a league average hitter. He has a much more athletic swing. If Rowdy can develop some better plate discipline he could be a great hitter. I think it's going to be harder for Vogelbach to be much better than league average.

 

You think Tellez golf swinging at breaking balls in the dirt is athletic?

[Laika]

You think Tellez golf swinging at breaking balls in the dirt is athletic?

 

I've always thought that Tellez' swing, physically speaking, looks like David Ortiz'.

 

Banning myself for saying that in 5 minutes

[saskjayfan]

You think Tellez golf swinging at breaking balls in the dirt is athletic?

 

I said he needs to improve his plate discipline...lol That comes with major league at bats for some, less so for others. I'm not sure how Rowdy will progress. Vogelbach doesn't swing at bad pitches and he has a career .196 batting average. That is concerning to me.

[wilko]

I've always thought that Tellez' swing, physically speaking, looks like David Ortiz'.

 

Banning myself for saying that in 5 minutes

 

lol plz self report.

[saskjayfan]

I've always thought that Tellez' swing, physically speaking, looks like David Ortiz'.

 

Banning myself for saying that in 5 minutes

 

I think the same thing. He just has to learn to lay off bad pitches. He is making contact. His strike outs are down. The tools are there. The final piece is getting into good counts and laying off garbage. That is a final step that some never get to.

[EastCoaster]

I've always thought that Tellez' swing, physically speaking, looks like David Ortiz'.

 

Banning myself for saying that in 5 minutes

 

Congrats my friend you've just became the proud owner of the stupidest statement ever made on any existing sport board.

[Laika]

Congrats my friend you've just became the proud owner of the stupidest statement ever made on any existing sport board.

 

watch some tape, meat stick. the swings are hilariously similar

[EastCoaster]

watch some tape, meat stick. the swings are hilariously similar

 

There's no similarity was so ever in between both swing Ortiz is smooth a fluid with a high leg kick with steady hands while Rowdy has more of jerky motion with low leg kick with some hand movement at the top. The only similarities are with follow through yeah watch the tapes I can tell a huge difference between both swing if you can't see the difference then this is pointless. Ortiz was one of the most feared hitters in baseball who could hit for avg with a high OBP and key in clutch situations. Just because both has a long follow through in their swings doesn't make them similar whatsoever.

[Laika]

Ortiz was one of the most feared hitters in baseball who could hit for avg with a high OBP and key in clutch situations. Just because both has a long follow through in their swings doesn't make them similar whatsoever.

 

Now it’s clear - you have the reading comprehension of a parrot and think I said that Rowdy Tellez is good.

[EastCoaster]

Now it’s clear - you have the reading comprehension of a parrot and think I said that Rowdy Tellez is good.

 

No I think you're a bonehead that made a stupid statement and cannot face the reality before you plain and simple.

[max silver]

No I think you're a bonehead that made a stupid statement and cannot face the reality before you plain and simple.

 

I think you're a fool picking a fight with a newly minted mod that's well on your way to earning yourself a timeout.

[saskjayfan]

No I think you're a bonehead that made a stupid statement and cannot face the reality before you plain and simple.

 

You didn't actually touch on any of the things you would actually use to compare swings. Posture, the angles created, shoulder turn, swing path. Papi had a much larger leg kick and his hands dipped a bit lower before bringing them up, but the two both have a very similar inside out uppercut swing. The swing path is very similar. Rowdy's is a bit more compact.

 

Rowdy is herky jerky...give me a break.

[Laika]

No I think you're a bonehead that made a stupid statement and cannot face the reality before you plain and simple.

 

I clearly admitted that comparing their swings was silly by saying I should ban myself.

 

They do look similar though. Someone could put together a gif side by side and on certain swings it's uncanny.

[BlueRocky]

[M.E.]

He has to be excited to move from a forever crap team to a team on the rise. Hopefully that helps rejuvenate the bat