Coronavirus vs Spanish Flu Mortality Thread

[max silver]

I'm tired of the constant bickering going on in the other Coronavirus threads as they have descended into a constant state of pointless arguments. I'm sure there are people on this board that would love to be able to present emerging facts, stories from around the world, relevant local happenings that pop up due to Covid-19. What we don't need is a group of self-described viral outbreak experts constantly polluting our general discussion threads with the garbage that has become rampant. Here is your own personal thread for you guys to go back and forth with this crap so the rest of us don't need to be inundated with it when attempting to discuss this pandemic like rational adults.

[Laika]

Personally I have always been a big fan of the Spanish Flu. That was a five tool pandemic.

[Carlos Danger]

Personally I have always been a big fan of the Spanish Flu. That was a five tool pandemic.

 

I don't know, I am kinda partial to an Asian flu.. They really know how to multiply!

[max silver]

Come on guys, you need to ratchet up the emotion to 110% here and really give it your all. Of course make sure you don't try to do too much as that would be detrimental. I've always wondered though, is 110% effort indeed doing too much? Maybe 105% is still safe?

[Dick_Pole]

This is what happens when there is no baseball and stat nerds have to find something to bicker about.

[Deadpool]

I'm tired of the constant bickering going on in the other Coronavirus threads as they have descended into a constant state of pointless arguments. I'm sure there are people on this board that would love to be able to present emerging facts, stories from around the world, relevant local happenings that pop up due to Covid-19. What we don't need is a group of self-described viral outbreak experts constantly polluting our general discussion threads with the garbage that has become rampant. Here is your own personal thread for you guys to go back and forth with this crap so the rest of us don't need to be inundated with it when attempting to discuss this pandemic like rational adults.

 

So you made an entirely new thread in which to bicker? Are you new to the internet?

[Angrioter]

Personally I have always been a big fan of the Spanish Flu. That was a five tool pandemic.

 

The Mike Trout of the flus

[P2F]

Is this something that us gambling degens can bet on, errrr...?

[DigitalRock]

So you made an entirely new thread in which to bicker? Are you new to the internet?

 

LOl yep, the word redundant comes to mind. Anyway you guys are looking at this all wrong, the real virus are humans.

[The Cats Ass]

Black Death is where it's at. Once you go black you never go back.

[Krylian]

This thread should be, what's your favourite plague.

 

The bubonic plague was elite.

[Brownie19]

Here's an idea - move this to the OT Coronavirus thread.

[Laika]

PANDEMIC POWER RANKINGS

 

1. THE PLAGUE (BLACK DEATH, BUBONIC PLAGUE) - predated good measurements but might have killed half of Europe in like five years. The Barry Bonds of pandemics.

2. THE SPANISH FLU - your granddaddy's influenza pandemic, killed 50 million (estimates range from 17 to 100 million).

3. SMALL POX - wiped out 50M+ over time, including 90% of Native Americans.

4. HIV/AIDS - a slow burn pandemic, it is still operating. Tens of millions have died; tens of millions currently have it.

5. PLAGUE OF JUSTINIAN - sped up the fall of the Roman Empire. Killed perhaps 50 million people in multiple occurrences across a couple of centuries (that's up to 26% of the global population at the time).

6. ANTONINE PLAGUE - 165 to 180 AD, killed 5-10 million people. Probably not actually the plague - could have been smallpox or measles.

7. THE THIRD PLAGUE - technically active from 1855 to 1960, killed perhaps 12 million people, mostly in China and India.

8. THE GREAT PESTILENCE - Mexico (New Spain) in the early 16C. Shortly after up to 8M died from smallpox in 1520, between 1545 and 1580 7-17.5M died from what the Aztecs called Cocoliztli. Now, we think this was a form of salmonella.

9. THE GREAT PLAGUES - Maybe a stretch to call this its own pandemic. The bacteria that caused the Black Death was dormant for a few centuries but had multiple outbreaks in Europe in the 18th, 17th, and 16th, centuries, killing millions.

 

Honourable Mentions:

 

ASIAN FLU

RUSSIAN FLU

HONG KONG FLU

CHOLERA

JAPANESE SMALLPOX

 

Recent, but not as serious as the above:

 

SWINE FLU (could be an HM)

SARS

MERS

EBOLA

 

Will COVID-19 slide into the HMs section???

 

Difficulties in comparing pandemics:

- modern healthcare limits deaths

- modern mobility makes it easier for things to become global

- global population makes raw death counts hard to compare across centuries

(we need to "park adjust" some of these stats. What would SARS or H1N1 have done in the 1800s?)

[Krylian]

PANDEMIC POWER RANKINGS

 

1. THE PLAGUE (BLACK DEATH, BUBONIC PLAGUE) - predated good measurements but might have killed half of Europe in like five years. The Barry Bonds of pandemics.

2. THE SPANISH FLU - your granddaddy's influenza pandemic, killed 50 million (estimates range from 17 to 100 million).

3. SMALL POX - wiped out 50M+ over time, including 90% of Native Americans.

4. HIV/AIDS - a slow burn pandemic, it is still operating. Tens of millions have died; tens of millions currently have it.

5. PLAGUE OF JUSTINIAN - sped up the fall of the Roman Empire. Killed perhaps 50 million people in multiple occurrences across a couple of centuries (that's up to 26% of the global population at the time).

6. ANTONINE PLAGUE - 165 to 180 AD, killed 5-10 million people. Probably not actually the plague - could have been smallpox or measles.

7. THE THIRD PLAGUE - technically active from 1855 to 1960, killed perhaps 12 million people, mostly in China and India.

8. THE GREAT PESTILENCE - Mexico (New Spain) in the early 16C. Shortly after up to 8M died from smallpox in 1520, between 1545 and 1580 7-17.5M died from what the Aztecs called Cocoliztli. Now, we think this was a form of salmonella.

9. THE GREAT PLAGUES - Maybe a stretch to call this its own pandemic. The bacteria that caused the Black Death was dormant for a few centuries but had multiple outbreaks in Europe in the 18th, 17th, and 16th, centuries, killing millions.

 

Honourable Mentions:

 

ASIAN FLU

RUSSIAN FLU

HONG KONG FLU

CHOLERA

JAPANESE SMALLPOX

 

Recent, but not as serious as the above:

 

SWINE FLU (could be an HM)

SARS

MERS

EBOLA

 

Will COVID-19 slide into the HMs section???

 

Difficulties in comparing pandemics:

- modern healthcare limits deaths

- modern mobility makes it easier for things to become global

- global population makes raw death counts hard to compare across centuries

(we need to "park adjust" some of these stats. What would SARS or H1N1 have done in the 1800s?)

 

Great write-up.

 

Needs DAR per pandemic. Death Above Replacement

[Carlos Danger]

PANDEMIC POWER RANKINGS

 

1. THE PLAGUE (BLACK DEATH, BUBONIC PLAGUE) - predated good measurements but might have killed half of Europe in like five years. The Barry Bonds of pandemics.

2. THE SPANISH FLU - your granddaddy's influenza pandemic, killed 50 million (estimates range from 17 to 100 million).

3. SMALL POX - wiped out 50M+ over time, including 90% of Native Americans.

4. HIV/AIDS - a slow burn pandemic, it is still operating. Tens of millions have died; tens of millions currently have it.

5. PLAGUE OF JUSTINIAN - sped up the fall of the Roman Empire. Killed perhaps 50 million people in multiple occurrences across a couple of centuries (that's up to 26% of the global population at the time).

6. ANTONINE PLAGUE - 165 to 180 AD, killed 5-10 million people. Probably not actually the plague - could have been smallpox or measles.

7. THE THIRD PLAGUE - technically active from 1855 to 1960, killed perhaps 12 million people, mostly in China and India.

8. THE GREAT PESTILENCE - Mexico (New Spain) in the early 16C. Shortly after up to 8M died from smallpox in 1520, between 1545 and 1580 7-17.5M died from what the Aztecs called Cocoliztli. Now, we think this was a form of salmonella.

9. THE GREAT PLAGUES - Maybe a stretch to call this its own pandemic. The bacteria that caused the Black Death was dormant for a few centuries but had multiple outbreaks in Europe in the 18th, 17th, and 16th, centuries, killing millions.

 

Honourable Mentions:

 

ASIAN FLU

RUSSIAN FLU

HONG KONG FLU

CHOLERA

JAPANESE SMALLPOX

 

Recent, but not as serious as the above:

 

SWINE FLU (could be an HM)

SARS

MERS

EBOLA

 

Will COVID-19 slide into the HMs section???

 

Difficulties in comparing pandemics:

- modern healthcare limits deaths

- modern mobility makes it easier for things to become global

- global population makes raw death counts hard to compare across centuries

(we need to "park adjust" some of these stats. What would SARS or H1N1 have done in the 1800s?)

 

Hi Nick, this is Carlos from Florida.

 

If you were to assign a FV to each virus it would be very helpful in my upcoming draft.

 

Thanks and keep up the great work!

[max silver]

So you made an entirely new thread in which to bicker? Are you new to the internet?

 

Lol it was worth a shot. This seems to be a more chilled out thread oddly enough, sort of the opposite of what I originally created it for.

[polar bear]

I'm tired of the constant bickering going on in the other Coronavirus threads as they have descended into a constant state of pointless arguments. I'm sure there are people on this board that would love to be able to present emerging facts, stories from around the world, relevant local happenings that pop up due to Covid-19. What we don't need is a group of self-described viral outbreak experts constantly polluting our general discussion threads with the garbage that has become rampant. Here is your own personal thread for you guys to go back and forth with this crap so the rest of us don't need to be inundated with it when attempting to discuss this pandemic like rational adults.

 

Enough already,dump these depressing type threads.

[BlueRocky]

Is this something that us gambling degens can bet on, errrr...?

 

How’s the spread on virtual horse racing?

[dauv]

SARS was like the Travis Snider of viruses, showed great promise as an early PANDEMIC but could never handle the show. AAAA kind of virus.

[Abomination]

How’s the spread on virtual horse racing?

 

You can bet on League of Legends on DK still. I even watched one of the matches last night. I may need help.

[Spanky__99]

lol